topic Re: Going from DSLR to Mirrorless lens adapters in EOS DSLR & Mirrorless Cameras

EF Lens adapter advice for EOS M50 Mark II

mcgray96 — Wed, 08 Nov 2023 13:42:13 GMT

Hi all! I’m looking to get my fiancé a mirrorless camera for Christmas without asking for his expertise! Forgive me if any of my descriptions are incorrect, I do not have much knowledge in this area!

I’ve bought a canon EOS M50 mark II. He has a large collection of other canon lenses and currently uses his DSLR MarkD4 and D5. This will be his first mirrorless camera. From what I have researched, he can use his canon lenses that he currently has on the mirrorless camera with an adapter. Will the Canon EF-EOS adapter successfully allow this? Or is there another adapter I should be purchasing?

thank you!!

Re: Going from DSLR to Mirrorless lens adapters

rs-eos — Tue, 07 Nov 2023 17:29:37 GMT

Ack... if you can return the EOS M50, that'd be great. Canon's M-series line is a dead end. Instead, go for Canon's newer R-series cameras.

Having said that, I don't know if what "MarkD4" or "D5" is in the Canon world. Are these perhaps Nikon cameras?

Anyhow, based upon what your fiancé currently has, any information you can provide on what lenses he has, and what your budget would be, we can then provide you with recommendations.

Re: Going from DSLR to Mirrorless lens adapters

mcgray96 — Tue, 07 Nov 2023 17:50:28 GMT

Hi Ricky!
thank you so much for your response. Unfortunately I got the camera used and cannot return. I’m disappointed to hear that I may have made a bad move 😞

I incorrectly typed the DSLR cameras he has. He uses a 5D mark III and a 4D mark II. Hopefully this gives a bit more clarity on an adapter I can get for the lenses.

Re: Going from DSLR to Mirrorless lens adapters

rs-eos — Tue, 07 Nov 2023 17:54:46 GMT

Not sure what a "4D" is. But if he's used to the feature set provided by the 5D line of DSLRs, I feel he'll be quite disappointed with the M50. The 5D series is very feature rich.

Anyhow, for adapters, you'd need Canon's EF-M Lens Adapter Kit for Canon EF/EF-S lenses. Around $180.

Re: Going from DSLR to Mirrorless lens adapters

shadowsports — Tue, 07 Nov 2023 20:19:29 GMT

I have to agree with Ricky that he will be disappointed with a M series camera if he's coming from a 5D series body. I personally would not recommend any further investment here. It's a wonderful thought and kind gesture but spending more money at this point will just be spending good money after bad.

If you're set on giving this to him, don't spend any more money and let him decide what he wants to do.

Re: Going from DSLR to Mirrorless lens adapters

stevet1 — Wed, 08 Nov 2023 01:29:04 GMT

mcgray96,

Here is one approach:

There are vendors out there who will buy your used equipment. A company called KEH is one such company.

I won't go into all the procedures for doing so. You can contact them directly, but basically amounts to you sending the camera to them. They will examine it and make you an offer. You won t get back near what you paid for it, but it's a start.

Add the money you were considering spending on an adapter, and you are a little closer.

Go to your fiance and tell him you have saved up this much money to buy him a camera related Christmas present, and ask him how he would like to use it.

Who knows? Maybe he would like to buy some accessory to go along with his 5D, or maybe he would like to venture into the world of mirrorless and he's had his eye on a particular model.

Your Christmas present could be a joint saving project involving the both of you working together.

Steve Thomas

Re: EF Lens adapter advice for EOS M50 Mark II

ebiggs1 — Wed, 08 Nov 2023 16:06:48 GMT

I am afraid I am in the same camp as the M50 is not a good choice. If you did not get a lens with it, none of his lenses will work without the adapter. I hope you did not spend too much on the M50 as it is a dead end. It was never really a good camera line in the first place.

The R7 is probably the closest camera to a 5D Mk III right now. Time to cut your losses kido. Most stores like B&H or Adorama and others even Canon refurb store will take trade-ins and that is what I would advise you do at this point.

Re: EF Lens adapter advice for EOS M50 Mark II

Tronhard — Wed, 08 Nov 2023 18:22:26 GMT

Sadly, and very regretfully, you made the fundamental mistake of not consulting with your fiancé before making the purchase - in a laudable effort to surprise and delight him, you may have got a pig in a poke. While the M50 is a Mirrorless Interchangeable Lens Camera (MILC), it is a very early try by Canon dating back over 10 years. The M50 was a hybrid (stills but biased towards video) camera that has been popular amongst vloggers. That said, unfortunately Canon recently announced that the whole M-series platform is being discontinued as they encourage the market to move to the newer and much more functional R-series MILCs. That makes your situation somewhat challenging.
My suggestion is to try to on-sell the camera ASAP. As Ricky suggested, going to KEH will recoup some of your outlay, although they will take a commission and the value has already been downgraded by Canon's announcement on retirement of the platform.

Given your fiancé's choice of cameras - If your description of the cameras is correct then I wonder if they are Nikon cameras? Canon identifies their cameras in the following format #D (e.g. 5D, 6D, 7D) while Nikon reverse that (D3, D4 etc.) The brand name is clearly marked on the front of the camera just above the lens. If it IS a Nikon, then I suggest that if you are still looking to buy him a camera a Canon may not be the best brand.

In all honesty, I would suggest that you consider something safe, like a gift card to a reputable camera store like B&H or similar. That way, he can enjoy the process of shopping (and you can go with him, which may further delight him) and he will get what he wants or needs.

Buying specific gear without clear knowledge is an activity fraught with risk...

Re: EF Lens adapter advice for EOS M50 Mark II

krahe — Thu, 09 Nov 2023 17:41:35 GMT

I am curious as to why you say the M series was "never really a good camera line in the first place." I haven't used any of Canon's DSLRs (I do have a few EF/EF-S lenses), but my impression is that M series cameras are at least as capable as any similarly-priced Canon DSLRs available through the same period of time the M series was produced, on top of the benefits of being mirrorless.

Re: Going from DSLR to Mirrorless lens adapters

krahe — Thu, 09 Nov 2023 17:51:32 GMT

If you're going to lose a significant amount of money re-selling the M50 Mark II, I would hang onto it and let your fiance decide if he'd like to keep it as a second/alternate body or just use it as a way to see what mirrorless is like without a big investment. It's also going to be much more compact than his current camera, so he may find value in it as something he can take along more conveniently, too. Also, there are cheaper EF->EF-M adapters than Canon's that work very well (I have a Viltrox ~$40), so it wouldn't take much more of an investment to let him use all of his current lenses on it. It's also going to be ergonomically better than a similar-sized but newer R-series camera (e.g. the R50) when using his current lenses.

Re: Going from DSLR to Mirrorless lens adapters

Tronhard — Thu, 09 Nov 2023 19:04:13 GMT

Kevin, it is obvious that you are a loyal and determined fan of the EOS M50 and, while that is laudable, your enthusiasm is not necessarily valid for all others. By your own admission you have not owned anything else except the M-series camera, which would suggest your experience is limited in that respect. I have had 3xM5 bodies and 4xEF-M lenses, but I also shoot with multiple DSLRs (FF and APS-C), PowerShots and R-series cameras, so I think I can express a balanced view based on experience. I still retain 1xM5 and 3 EF-M lenses, and still use them from time to time. So, I am not biased against M-series, but I am a realist.

While it is true that the OP will lose money on this, that truth will only get worse over time, so the faster it is gone the better and then she can re-invest the funds she can salvage in something her fiancé can use.

Now, look at the indicated OP fiancé's camera gear - really look. Whether he is shooting with the 5DIII and 5DIV, or using the Nikon D4 and D5 - they are all pro-grade full-frame sensor cameras. Why on earth would someone with an obvious bias toward FF want to switch to an obsolescent crop-sensor camera for which they have no other lenses? I can see issues coming up for the OP in handing such a mismatch to her fiancé on Christmas day and him struggling to deal with her generosity vs his disappointment and frustration at getting something that is totally not appropriate for him.

Your statements about the ergonomics of the R cameras are misleading, and I have addressed this before in another post. The cheaper R-series APS-C bodies are ergonomically certainly no worse and the bodies are larger and heavier than the M50 you champion. However, again the OP's fiancé is highly unlikely to want an APS-C camera, based on their choices, they will almost certainly go for a FF body, which are larger again.

PLEASE stop pushing M50 bodes to people when it is not appropriate to their needs. The M cameras I have still take great photos, but they are not something I would encourage people to buy as a new platform.

Re: EF Lens adapter advice for EOS M50 Mark II

Tronhard — Thu, 09 Nov 2023 18:13:04 GMT

I don't know if it was a mis-type, but the R7 is closest to the 90D, being a crop-sensor camera. The equivalent to a 5D-series camera is the R5, while the equivalent to the 6D series is the R6 series. That said, there is the cheaper, but quite compelling R8 FF camera that might be a more economical solution.

I totally agree with you about not investing in any way in the M-series at this stage, although I personally was OK with the M5's I had for the specific application of when I wanted something very small, light and unobtrusive that could take an APS-C sensor with interchangeable lenses. It had its place, but it has been overtaken by the APS-C R series bodies like the M10, M50 and M100 - Canon just need to get out a few more cheap lenses for the format.

Re: Going from DSLR to Mirrorless lens adapters

rs-eos — Thu, 09 Nov 2023 18:42:21 GMT

@Tronhard wrote:
PLEASE stop pushing M50 bodes to people when it is not appropriate to their needs. The M cameras I have still take great photos, but they are not something I would encourage people to buy from new.

Well-said!

Re: EF Lens adapter advice for EOS M50 Mark II

Waddizzle — Thu, 09 Nov 2023 18:59:07 GMT

I agree. Sometimes the best surprise gift is a shopping spree. Here’s the budget. GO!

Re: Going from DSLR to Mirrorless lens adapters

krahe — Thu, 09 Nov 2023 19:04:19 GMT

I would agree with not making the M50 a Christmas present. Rather, I would get him something else and separately explain, "Hey, I got this for you thinking it would be an upgrade of sorts, but now I realize it's not up to the level of the camera you already have in several ways. But instead of just selling it for a loss I thought I would let you take a look at it and decide for yourself if it's something you'd want to experiment with, keep as a compact travel camera or perhaps just use as a trade-in for something you might consider more of a replacement for your current camera."

But I stand by everything else I said.