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    <title>topic EOS 5D MK III - Upgrade Thoughts in EOS DSLR &amp; Mirrorless Cameras</title>
    <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EOS-DSLR-Mirrorless-Cameras/EOS-5D-MK-III-Upgrade-Thoughts/m-p/444671#M107138</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hey there,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I currently own a 80D and want to upgrade to a 5D Mark III with a full sensor, because I get to the limits of shooting in darker places.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2 days ago I photographed a show (Poledance Sports) from a medium distance with my Canon 70-200L F2.8 with IS. The shutter just couldn’t handle some dark parts where there was almost no light. Obviously I don’t use flash because of 300 guests.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As far as good. I’m thinking of upgrading to a used 5D Mark III and getting a Canon 24-70L F2.8 to replace my crappy Sigma 17-50 F2.8.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Bigger sensor = more light and better camera performance I would guess then.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The other point being: The 5DMKIII and 24-70L is about the same price as a 5DMKIV. So is the upgrade here so much of a game changer?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Any other ideas towards another body/lens welcome.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2023 18:47:36 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>tartik</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2023-11-06T18:47:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>EOS 5D MK III - Upgrade Thoughts</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EOS-DSLR-Mirrorless-Cameras/EOS-5D-MK-III-Upgrade-Thoughts/m-p/444671#M107138</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hey there,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I currently own a 80D and want to upgrade to a 5D Mark III with a full sensor, because I get to the limits of shooting in darker places.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2 days ago I photographed a show (Poledance Sports) from a medium distance with my Canon 70-200L F2.8 with IS. The shutter just couldn’t handle some dark parts where there was almost no light. Obviously I don’t use flash because of 300 guests.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As far as good. I’m thinking of upgrading to a used 5D Mark III and getting a Canon 24-70L F2.8 to replace my crappy Sigma 17-50 F2.8.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Bigger sensor = more light and better camera performance I would guess then.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The other point being: The 5DMKIII and 24-70L is about the same price as a 5DMKIV. So is the upgrade here so much of a game changer?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Any other ideas towards another body/lens welcome.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2023 18:47:36 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>tartik</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-11-06T18:47:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: EOS 5D MK III</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EOS-DSLR-Mirrorless-Cameras/EOS-5D-MK-III-Upgrade-Thoughts/m-p/444678#M107140</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Greetings ,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The 5D3 was a great camera in it's day, but it's 11 years old now. I'm not sure Its a wise investment at this point in time.&amp;nbsp; I think a 5D4 at minimum would be a better way to go.&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;As far as a professional full frame camera goes, it doesn't get much better than that unless you go to a 1D series.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I understand all of the reasons going from APS-C to full frame.&amp;nbsp; I owned a sigma 17-70 f2.8 when I had a T6s.&amp;nbsp; However, it sounds like our experiences were a bit different.&amp;nbsp; I absolutely loved mine.&amp;nbsp; It out performed the 17-50 in focus and clarity, but in light gathering capability they were similarly matched.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;If you're going to go with a 5D series, I suggest you get the mkIV at minimum.&amp;nbsp; It will definitely be a step up from where you are now and will assuredly offer better low light capability over the 80D.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Shooting through low light from a distance on an illuminated subject can challenge any camera and lens.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Do you have a budget for this purchase, and if so what is it?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Here is a no flash, handheld shot with&amp;nbsp;the T6s and Sigma 17-70.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;37mm, 1/13, f4.5, ISO 6400&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Paris Catacombs handheld"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.usa.canon.com/skins/images/FC29B1463C5FFA1534B5A57C60951621/responsive_peak/images/image_not_found.png" alt="Paris Catacombs handheld" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2023 15:06:51 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>shadowsports</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-11-06T15:06:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: EOS 5D MK III</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EOS-DSLR-Mirrorless-Cameras/EOS-5D-MK-III-Upgrade-Thoughts/m-p/444716#M107147</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I would be very surprised if simply going from an 80D to a 5D Mk III fixed your low light problems. But, of course I don't know your standards and requirements. Going to the 5D Mk IV could bring some better help. People that believe a FF sensor will answer all their low light issues probably read too many articles on the ole inner web. Repeating I don't know exactly what you are after. Keep in mind high ISO is still high ISO. Actually going from an 80D to a 5D3 might be a step backwards.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;"The shutter just couldn’t handle some dark parts where there was almost no light."&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Remember all photographic gear has its limits. This may be a case where you have found one. Besides a more current camera, not a 5 series, and a very fast lens and perhaps a monopod or tripod could be the answer.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I did a shoot a long time ago of one of these events and was trying to find some photos to show but I could not. Anyway, as I recall there is always sufficient light on the performer to allow good exposure. You are exposing for her not the dark surroundings.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2023 17:43:36 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>ebiggs1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-11-06T17:43:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: EOS 5D MK III</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EOS-DSLR-Mirrorless-Cameras/EOS-5D-MK-III-Upgrade-Thoughts/m-p/444733#M107154</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Ernie ,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Yours is definitely a good point.&amp;nbsp; I left that out of my initial response because I wanted to see what the overall budget for this endeavor was.&amp;nbsp; A 5D4 will improve but as you said not guarantee a stellar outcome even with a f2.8 lens.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;His particular venue had 300 guess so he must have been shooting from quite a distance, probably through darkness at an illuminated or spot lit subject? (Guessing). This is also why I recommended the 5D4 as a minimum consideration.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The get up and go rock your shot invitation that Chris Canada just posted might be helpful to attend and watch. It may offer some practical tips.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I was hoping to get a bit more feedback and make some recommendations accordingly.&amp;nbsp; &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2023 18:39:33 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>shadowsports</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-11-06T18:39:33Z</dc:date>
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