topic Re: 6D gave me really blurry photos? in EOS DSLR & Mirrorless Cameras

6D gave me really blurry photos?

Sophós — Thu, 23 Nov 2017 00:07:29 GMT

Hello everyone.

I'm posting here hoping to find someone who can help me.

I recently got a 6D mark 2 to shoot my videos and it was all fine. Last night I was asked to take some photos during a meeting but I immediatly saw the lack of quality in all of them. I can't explain this absence of details even in the darkest enviroment or with the slowest shutter...

Re: 6D gave me really blurry photos?

Waddizzle — Thu, 23 Nov 2017 00:12:38 GMT

What lens were you using, and at what focal length? What were your exposure settings?

Do a web search for " depth of field " and " exposure triangle ". I think your gear seems fine, BTW.

Look at how the background in the above photo is WAY out of focus. That's normal.

Re: 6D gave me really blurry photos?

Sophós — Thu, 23 Nov 2017 00:23:28 GMT

This was taken with a old 70-300mm f/4-5.6, 1/200 F4.5 and ISO 12800 and it was a bright stage.. i never pushed the iso so high honestly

Edit: i got the same problem with my 50mm f/1.8 lense. This was shot in 1/160 F2 ISO 6400

Re: 6D gave me really blurry photos?

Waddizzle — Thu, 23 Nov 2017 01:14:45 GMT

Sorry, I still am not convinced there is anything wrong with your gear. Explore the web searches that I suggested.

Re: 6D gave me really blurry photos?

TTMartin — Thu, 23 Nov 2017 01:32:33 GMT

@Sophós wrote:
Hello everyone.
I'm posting here hoping to find someone who can help me.
I recently got a 6D mark 2 to shoot my videos and it was all fine. Last night I was asked to take some photos during a meeting but I immediatly saw the lack of quality in all of them. I can't explain this absence of details even in the darkest enviroment or with the slowest shutter...

That is a fantastic photo. Make an 8" x 10" print of it and give it to the subject. They'll love it!

Re: 6D gave me really blurry photos?

TTMartin — Thu, 23 Nov 2017 01:36:56 GMT

@Sophós wrote:
This was taken with a old 70-300mm f/4-5.6, 1/200 F4.5 and ISO 12800 and it was a bright stage.. i never pushed the iso so high honestly

Edit: i got the same problem with my 50mm f/1.8 lense. This was shot in 1/160 F2 ISO 6400

Only thing wrong with that photo is you forced the camea to underexpose it.

Increase the ISO and get a proper exposure.

Canon cameras are not 'ISOless' meaning it is better to increase the ISO than try and push the photograph in post processing.

Instead of ISO 6400 you would have been better off with ISO 12800.

Re: 6D gave me really blurry photos?

diverhank — Thu, 23 Nov 2017 02:06:23 GMT

Not sure why you think those pictures you took were blurry. They aren't.

I could be wrong but it appears in both pictures, you have cleaned up the noise in post. Pictures become softer if you do this.

The man appeared to be fairly animated (read: moving around) and if you shot at 300mm, your shutter speed was a bit lower than it should be (remember the rule of thumb 1/FL?)...the light wasn't that great either. Your picture looks about right given the circumstances.

The second picture...your exposure was simply too dark...also you should have used exposure compensation to get the face exposure correctly. Besides that, I thought the photo looked pretty darn good for this lens @ f/2. 1/160 is better than needed for a 50mm FL and it shows...this picture was sharper than the other one.

Both could use a bit of white balance adjustment too, according to my taste. Other than that I think your pictures are pretty good under the circumstances (lousy lighting).

Re: 6D gave me really blurry photos?

MikeSowsun — Thu, 23 Nov 2017 03:05:21 GMT

TTMartin wrote:
Sophós wrote:
This was taken with a old 70-300mm f/4-5.6, 1/200 F4.5 and ISO 12800 and it was a bright stage.. i never pushed the iso so high honestly

Edit: i got the same problem with my 50mm f/1.8 lense. This was shot in 1/160 F2 ISO 6400

The EXIF data says you were shooting with a Canon EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 which is generally regarded as one of Canon's worst performing lenses.

That shot was 1/200, wide open at f/4.5 and135mm, and is actually quite good considering what you have to work with.

Re: 6D gave me really blurry photos?

Peter — Thu, 23 Nov 2017 09:42:17 GMT

@TTMartin wrote:
@Sophós wrote:
This was taken with a old 70-300mm f/4-5.6, 1/200 F4.5 and ISO 12800 and it was a bright stage.. i never pushed the iso so high honestly

Edit: i got the same problem with my 50mm f/1.8 lense. This was shot in 1/160 F2 ISO 6400
Only thing wrong with that photo is you forced the camea to underexpose it.

Increase the ISO and get a proper exposure.

Canon cameras are not 'ISOless' meaning it is better to increase the ISO than try and push the photograph in post processing.

Instead of ISO 6400 you would have been better off with ISO 12800.

Both yes and no. Canon sensors (at least not the latest generation) are ISOless above a certain value. 5DII has the limit above ISO 1600. Just a guess, but I suppose 6D have the limit above 6400.

6D gave me really blurry photos?

AndreaW — Sun, 03 Feb 2019 22:27:50 GMT

This is the EXACT same problem I am having with my new Canon 6D Mark II camera. I never had this issue with my Canon 6D camera, therefore, the issue is not the lenses I am using because I tried using 3 different lenses and, unfortunately, had the same result -- fuzzy-looking photos. 😞

Would this be a camera defect?

Re: 6D gave me really blurry photos?

diverhank — Mon, 04 Feb 2019 00:08:39 GMT

f/1.8 and f/2 will do that everytime. People pay big bucks to get this effect and you are complaining about it...I don't really know what to say.

Re: 6D gave me really blurry photos?

AndreaW — Mon, 04 Feb 2019 00:16:01 GMT

I'm not talking depth of field. I'm talking about the image looks FUZZY! Clearly, you haven't experienced this issue. Good for you. But, unfortunately, there are several of us that are experiencing this problem with the 6D Mark II camera and it leaves the photo with zero image quality.

Re: 6D gave me really blurry photos?

Waddizzle — Mon, 04 Feb 2019 00:28:10 GMT

@AndreaW wrote:
I'm not talking depth of field. I'm talking about the image looks FUZZY! Clearly, you haven't experienced this issue. Good for you. But, unfortunately, there are several of us that are experiencing this problem with the 6D Mark II camera and it leaves the photo with zero image quality.

Some early production models did seem to have a misaligned AF sensor. Maybe you have one of those. If your camera is under warranty, why don’t you just contact Canon, and have them check it out.

However, if you say your photos are almost just like the photos posted by the OP, then neither of those photos appear to have a focus problem. What lens are you using that causes you problems?

When an entire photo is OOF, then the most common causes are camera shake and too slow of a shutter speed for the focal length. Can you post a sample photo, which includes EXIF shooting data, that demonstrates your issues?

Re: 6D gave me really blurry photos?

AndreaW — Mon, 04 Feb 2019 01:11:12 GMT

I am not a novice, I know what "camera shake" is. 🙂 The issue is that either the entire image or the edges of the image is fuzzy (not blurry) and sometimes the background is extremely fuzzy to where you can barely make out what is there -- just like the images the other guy posted. I have used various lenses, so it is not a lens issue. And yes, I use expensive ones (i.e., Canon 70-200 2.8 lens).

I've never had this issue with the Canon 6D camera, only with the 6D Mark II. And thank you for the suggestion. Tomorrow I will contact Canon because I have only had the camera for 1-1/2 months which means I am still under warranty.

Thank you.

Re: 6D gave me really blurry photos?

TCampbell — Mon, 04 Feb 2019 02:25:21 GMT

The background blur is the result of depth-of-field. Every lens will do that. Many photographers are coutning on the lens to do that becuase they like the effect (tack-sharp subject on a creamy-smooth blurred background helps a subject "pop" and is generally regarded as pleasing to the eye.)

If you want to evaluate a lens or camera for quality, then you have to eliminate all the things that could possibly go wrong which are not the fault of the camera or lens.

This means... camera must be on a solid tripod (no hand-holding when trying to evaluate camera or lens quality).

You have to use a legit focus test target (not an everyday photo).

You have to control the focus point and know that the focus point is positioned on your test target (don't let the camera auto-select the auto-focus point).

The camera sensor really has no opportunity to make something blurry. If you set up video screen and video projector and the image on the screen is blurry... is that the screen's fault ... or the projectors fault (or the fault of the person responsible for focusing the image)? The camera sensor works the same way ... with one exception. The camera has a focus system, so it gets to control the focus on the lens. It is possible the camera needs to have focus calibrated and is missing focus. But you would only know that by using a legit focus test target (typically these targets have something that resembles a rule or yard-stick resting on an angle and placed adjacent to the flat surface of the focus-test target. You can then inspect that scale to determine if the best focus point was next to the test target (focus was accurate) or farther back (back-focus) or closer forward (front-focus).

You can use a product such as the LensAlign test focus calibration tool or the DataColor LensCal focus calibration tool.

When you inspect candids you will struggle to make those determinations with any accuracy.

Re: 6D gave me really blurry photos?

AndreaW — Mon, 04 Feb 2019 03:16:55 GMT

I think you made a mistake and meant to respond to someone else because your response did not address my issue. My issue has nothing to do with depth of field.

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Re: 6D gave me really blurry photos?

Waddizzle — Mon, 04 Feb 2019 03:32:17 GMT

@AndreaW wrote:
I think you made a mistake and meant to respond to someone else because your response did not address my issue. My issue has nothing to do with depth of field.

A-

Do not be so harsh to someone only trying to help you. Until you post a sample photo of your issue, then no one understands your issue, except for you. Good Luck.

Re: 6D gave me really blurry photos?

AndreaW — Mon, 04 Feb 2019 13:26:11 GMT

I wasn't being harsh. It sounded as though you were responding to someone else's issue.

If you look as the image below you will see that the bassist's hands are fuzzy. Yes, this photo was taken in low light, however, with the Canon 6D I would not have had this happen. With the Canon 6D Mark II this "fuzziness" appears in many of my photos, especially around the edges where there is less light. (And yes, I know all about the importance of light as you will see in my photos: www.AndreaWattsPhotography.com )

Re: 6D gave me really blurry photos?

TTMartin — Mon, 04 Feb 2019 14:29:13 GMT

The bassist hands are fuzzy because they were moving and you were using too slow of a shutter speed to freeze their movement.

Re: 6D gave me really blurry photos?

AndreaW — Mon, 04 Feb 2019 14:15:51 GMT

Oh God... 🙂