topic Re: Create new folder for focus bracketing for EOS R5 in EOS DSLR & Mirrorless Cameras

Create new folder for focus bracketing for EOS R5

JimFeet — Fri, 11 Aug 2023 23:34:48 GMT

This question was first posted back in 2020 but the questioner ended up figuring it out himself but never explained his solution so I'm re-posting here because I have the same question:

On page 242 of the R5 manual, at the end of the section on focus bracketing, the manual says that the user can create a new folder by pressing an icon that looks like a folder with a + sign. Where is that icon? I have searched the manual and the screens displayed on the camera and I cannot find that icon.

Re: Create new folder for focus bracketing for EOS R5

Anonymous — Sat, 12 Aug 2023 00:11:19 GMT

It looks like folder+ function (Create Folder) can be assigned to a button. See pages 841-843 in the manual. I don't have that camera, so I can't check it out myself.

Re: Create new folder for focus bracketing for EOS R5

JimFeet — Sat, 12 Aug 2023 01:08:06 GMT

Looks like a possible solution but it requires one to give up an existing button function for something that might not be used very much. Focus bracketing is useful only for static objects. I use it for macro work, especially insects some of which occasionally remain stationary long enough to be applicable.

Seems odd that a feature recommended in the interface isn't found in the interface.

But that's a nice catch! Thanks for the idea, I'll certainly keep it in mind.

Re: Create new folder for focus bracketing for EOS R5

Waddizzle — Sat, 12 Aug 2023 05:48:46 GMT

You do not need to re-assign a button to create a new folder for storing images. Use the blue Playback menus to create a new folder and then to tell the camera to store images there.

Re: Create new folder for focus bracketing for EOS R5

FloridaDrafter — Sat, 12 Aug 2023 07:17:46 GMT

I've attached a screen grab of page 755 of the R5's Advanced User Guide. You just need to scroll over to Wrench 1 and create a new folder and set it to current. It just takes a few seconds. Once you select "Folder" at the bottom of step 2, you will get more options. I have folders already made so I just select an empty folder and shoot my stack. Just don't forget to go back and change to your main folder when done, LOL!

Newton

Re: Create new folder for focus bracketing for EOS R5

Waddizzle — Sat, 12 Aug 2023 11:00:53 GMT

Thanks for the correction, Newton. I thought the setting was in Playback Menus.

[EDIT] I recommend adding that menu item and focus bracketing to the user defined, custom menu.

Re: Create new folder for focus bracketing for EOS R5

JimFeet — Sat, 12 Aug 2023 16:01:15 GMT

I'm aware of the various ways to create a folder. I had hoped to find a simple one-step interface object as described in the Canon Focus Bracketing screen. It already takes numerous steps/clicks to enable and configure this function - I rarely want/need 100 images and usually want the tightest steps. Unfortunately, adding the Record func+, etc. menu item to my already bloated My Menu1,2,3 adds more steps to an already time-consuming setup process. (If you're trying to shoot an insect.) And whenever the camera shuts down or sleeps, Focus Bracketing settings are cleared.

Nevertheless, I appreciate the suggestions. As a software developer myself, encountering inefficient and cumbersome interfaces is a pet peeve. It would help if Focus Bracketing settings could be saved as a C1,2,3 custom configuration. Or better, simply add the referenced icon on the screen and create a default folder named "FocusBracket..." or some similar.

Again, thanks for the suggestions. I guess I'll just continue working without focus bracketing or sacrifice a button function until Canon changes their menu structure.

Re: Create new folder for focus bracketing for EOS R5

johnrmoyer — Sat, 12 Aug 2023 17:48:17 GMT

I hope some of this might help. I use the EOS R5 for making focus stacks and use Canon DPP as the stacking software, but have also used hugin on Debian Linux.

What I have done, is make a single image before I start the focus bracket that is easy to recognize when I get the images on a computer. Then make the focus bracket without making a separate folder on the camera. In Canon DPP software, I select all of the CR3 files after the recognizable one by click on the first one and shift click on the last one. Canon DPP makes a folder for intermediate files and saves a JPEG or a TIFF.

This, easier than an insect, was made with EF-S18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM crop lens because it focuses so nicely in small steps and I do not own a macro lens. (In this example, I was trying to prove a point and set the camera to the minimum focus increment when a larger one would have worked. Lighting was natural light from a window, 1/5 second, ISO 320, F/9) Canon DPP made a directory DPP_DC_1 beneath my working directory and placed file there for each of the 40 CR3 files I selected to include in the focus stack plus a file .DATA.bin. I had previously saved a dr4 recipe file and applied it to all of the CR3 files. I am in the habit of not saving the CR3 files but leaving them unchanged and saving a recipe file. (programs other than DPP that I used on this image include graphicsmagick, exiftool, and Korn shell scripts that I wrote) Then I put it on my web server at https://www.rsok.com/~jrm/2023Jul19_birds_and_cats/2023jul06_lens_DC_4596-4635.html for friends and family to view.

I am a retired software engineer, but I worked on mostly embedded firmware and sensor related stuff and not user interface.

Minolta Lens made in Japan MC ROKKOR-X PG 1:1.4 f=50mm, with Urth adapter for use on Canon, depth composite made on July 6, 2023

Re: Create new folder for focus bracketing for EOS R5

Waddizzle — Sat, 12 Aug 2023 17:59:58 GMT

It works for me. I enabled it and press [INFO] until this screen appeared.

The icon you want is on the lower left. There is an icon that appears when it is enabled on the upper left.

[EDIT] You must have “Touch Control” enabled!

Re: Create new folder for focus bracketing for EOS R5

JimFeet — Sat, 12 Aug 2023 18:23:32 GMT

Nice work! Love the Minolta adaption.

I guess creating one or several folders in advance as suggested by FloridaDrafter is gonna be my best time-saving option.

Re: Create new folder for focus bracketing for EOS R5

FloridaDrafter — Sat, 12 Aug 2023 18:51:38 GMT

@Waddizzle wrote:
Thanks for the correction, Newton. I thought the setting was in Playback Menus.

You are welcome. With all the stuff you know about different cameras, it's understandable 🙂

Re: Create new folder for focus bracketing for EOS R5

FloridaDrafter — Sat, 12 Aug 2023 19:48:39 GMT

@Waddizzle wrote:
It works for me. I enabled it and press [INFO] until this screen appeared.
<snipped image>
The icon you want is on the lower left. There is an icon that appears when it is enabled on the upper left.

Great catch! Now if Canon would include that in the Bracketing directions. It's obvious to me that they are assuming you would be using one of the Live View screens to stack. I always use the EVF, so I've never noticed the "Create Folder" icon. It also appears to be tied to the Focus Bracketing feature as it only shows when it is enabled. It's not there under normal shooting settings, either by toggling through INFO or using the Q button, at least that's the way it's working on my R5.

Newton

Re: Create new folder for focus bracketing for EOS R5

Waddizzle — Sat, 12 Aug 2023 23:33:10 GMT

@FloridaDrafter wrote:
@Waddizzle wrote:
It works for me. I enabled it and press [INFO] until this screen appeared.
<snipped image>
The icon you want is on the lower left. There is an icon that appears when it is enabled on the upper left.
Great catch! Now if Canon would include that in the Bracketing directions. It's obvious to me that they are assuming you would be using one of the Live View screens to stack. I always use the EVF, so I've never noticed the "Create Folder" icon. It also appears to be tied to the Focus Bracketing feature as it only shows when it is enabled. It's not there under normal shooting settings, either by toggling through INFO or using the Q button, at least that's the way it's working on my R5.
Newton

The icon is a “Touch Control”. This is why you must enable it before you can see the icon on the rear LCD. Being a “Touch Control” is probably why it does not appear in the EVF.