topic Re: NEW: EF-S 35mm f/2.8 Macro IS STM in EF & RF Lenses

NEW: EF-S 35mm f/2.8 Macro IS STM

Waddizzle — Wed, 24 May 2017 00:04:35 GMT

This lens sounds like it has potential to become a big hit for users of EF-S lenses. It's wide. It's fast. It has IS. Plus, it's a macro capable of life size reproduction.

https://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/ef-s-35mm-f28-macro-is-stm-lens

Re: NEW: EF-S 35mm f/2.8 Macro IS STM

kvbarkley — Wed, 24 May 2017 17:29:23 GMT

35mm is about normal for EF-S. 35 * 1.6 = 56mm(eq)

And do you know how close to the lens 1:1 reproduction is going to be?

Re: NEW: EF-S 35mm f/2.8 Macro IS STM

Waddizzle — Wed, 24 May 2017 22:19:56 GMT

@kvbarkley wrote:
35mm is about normal for EF-S. 35 * 1.6 = 56mm(eq)

And do you know how close to the lens 1:1 reproduction is going to be?

That I cannot say. I noticed it was on the B&H web site. The MFD is around 6 inches.

Re: NEW: EF-S 35mm f/2.8 Macro IS STM

kvbarkley — Wed, 24 May 2017 22:35:04 GMT

The 1:1 working distance from the front of the lens is 3" - it really needs those macro lights!

In comparison, the EF-S 60mm Macro has a working distance ot 5".

Re: NEW: EF-S 35mm f/2.8 Macro IS STM

Waddizzle — Wed, 24 May 2017 22:55:06 GMT

@kvbarkley wrote:
The 1:1 working distance from the front of the lens is 3" - it really needs those macro lights!

In comparison, the EF-S 60mm Macro has a working distance ot 5".

I'm not looking at it as a macro lens as much as I'm looking at it as a fast, wide angle prime. The EF 35mm f/2 IS USM costs about 50% more than this EF-S lens. You raise a good poit about focusing distance.

I figured that you would need to be very close to the subject with a mere 35mm focal length to get 1:1. That's the big advantage of the longer focal lengths, you can back away from the subject. You cannot get that close to any and everything.

Re: NEW: EF-S 35mm f/2.8 Macro IS STM

kvbarkley — Wed, 24 May 2017 23:04:42 GMT

Again, 35mm on EF-S is not wide angle. it is a 56mm equivalent, or slightly longer than normal.

Re: NEW: EF-S 35mm f/2.8 Macro IS STM

Waddizzle — Wed, 24 May 2017 23:09:00 GMT

@kvbarkley wrote:
Again, 35mm on EF-S is not wide angle. it is a 56mm equivalent, or slightly longer than normal.

Yes, I know that. But, it is almost as close to a "normal" 50mm lens equivalent that you can get from Canon.

Re: NEW: EF-S 35mm f/2.8 Macro IS STM

ebiggs1 — Thu, 25 May 2017 13:25:35 GMT

I'm just trying to figure out the "why"? WIth all the lenses Canon could spend time on developing? It is not fast for a 35mm. You have to be too close for a macro. If you have to do something in this vein why not update the EF-S 60mm f/2.8 Macro USM Lens. Not interested.

Re: NEW: EF-S 35mm f/2.8 Macro IS STM

kvbarkley — Thu, 25 May 2017 14:58:46 GMT

The only thing it brings to the party are the built in macro lights. I think this is actually the first foodie lens!

Re: NEW: EF-S 35mm f/2.8 Macro IS STM

RobertTheFat — Thu, 25 May 2017 15:07:55 GMT

@kvbarkley wrote:
The only thing it brings to the party are the built in macro lights. I think this is actually the first foodie lens!

But to continue Ernie's point, the reason the macro lights are needed is that you have to get so close, right?

Re: NEW: EF-S 35mm f/2.8 Macro IS STM

kvbarkley — Thu, 25 May 2017 16:37:35 GMT

No, if that was the case, there would be no macro flashes.

Re: NEW: EF-S 35mm f/2.8 Macro IS STM

ebiggs1 — Thu, 25 May 2017 17:53:44 GMT

"...there would be no macro flashes."

???????

Re: NEW: EF-S 35mm f/2.8 Macro IS STM

kvbarkley — Thu, 25 May 2017 18:23:28 GMT

The extremely close working distance is not the only reason to have the macro lights, almost any macro lens can benefit from them as the existence of macro flashes attest.

Re: NEW: EF-S 35mm f/2.8 Macro IS STM

RobertTheFat — Thu, 25 May 2017 20:01:50 GMT

@kvbarkley wrote:
No, if that was the case, there would be no macro flashes.

Then macro flashes are needed because they exist? That's known as "the fallacy of affirming the antecedent".

The closer you are to the subject, the more useful a macro flash is. But that's because the closer you are, the harder it is to use any other kind of flash effectively.

BTW, does the new lens have macro flashes? As I read it, its lights are continuous LEDs.

Re: NEW: EF-S 35mm f/2.8 Macro IS STM

kvbarkley — Thu, 25 May 2017 20:09:03 GMT

They are Macro Lights.

Re: NEW: EF-S 35mm f/2.8 Macro IS STM

ebiggs1 — Thu, 25 May 2017 21:50:22 GMT

I sold my ef 100mm macro in favor of the ef 180mm macro just because it increased the working distance. The Ef 180mil is a fantastic lens whether you do macro or not.

Re: NEW: EF-S 35mm f/2.8 Macro IS STM

Waddizzle — Thu, 25 May 2017 23:35:10 GMT

@ebiggs1 wrote:
I sold my ef 100mm macro in favor of the ef 180mm macro just because it increased the working distance. The Ef 180mil is a fantastic lens whether you do macro or not.

It probably is. I think this lens has the potential to be a very good lens with STM focusing and IS. Not sure what benefit the IS serves on this lens, though.

Re: NEW: EF-S 35mm f/2.8 Macro IS STM

ebiggs1 — Fri, 26 May 2017 13:27:56 GMT

What I was suggesting was the close working distance opposed to the longer focal length macros. This new 35mil may be a nice lens but certainly a pain to use as a macro.

Re: NEW: EF-S 35mm f/2.8 Macro IS STM

Waddizzle — Fri, 26 May 2017 21:07:02 GMT

@ebiggs1 wrote:
What I was suggesting was the close working distance opposed to the longer focal length macros. This new 35mil may be a nice lens but certainly a pain to use as a macro.

I've been pretty clear about the fact that it being a macro lens is not the reason I like it. I think it will make a pretty good prime. Not very fast, but fast enough for tourist mode.

Re: NEW: EF-S 35mm f/2.8 Macro IS STM

ebiggs1 — Fri, 26 May 2017 21:41:41 GMT

Maybe it was me that wasn't "clear" but..........."It's wide. It's fast. It has IS. Plus, it's a macro capable of life size reproduction."

I must have not understood the first post.