topic Canon EOS 5D Mark III and Tamron lens in EF & RF Lenses

Canon EOS 5D Mark III and Tamron lens

povfrome — Sun, 29 Jun 2014 05:48:26 GMT

I have just ordered a EOS Mark III body and a Canon 70-200 F/2.8 II USM IS lens. Now I want a wide angle zoom lens to complete the package. I'm interested in a 24-70 f/2.8 lens. Canon's version does not have an image stabalizer and is over $2000. Tamron offers the same focal and aperture in their 24-70 f/2.8 with an image stabalizer for around $1300. Are there any issues concerning using a Tamron lens on a Canon body?

Re: Canon EOS 5D Mark III and Tamron lens

cale_kat — Sun, 29 Jun 2014 06:15:53 GMT

"Are there any issues concerning using a Tamron lens on a Canon body?"

None unless you consider that posting a question which seeks approval from those that are indebted to their host Canon might be offended by your question.

Re: Canon EOS 5D Mark III and Tamron lens

povfrome — Sun, 29 Jun 2014 06:33:12 GMT

I’m sorry, This was my first post as a new member and I didn’t know that this site was biased against other products. I’ll make sure that in the future my posts will be only regarding Canon products if I decide to remain a member.

Re: Canon EOS 5D Mark III and Tamron lens

cale_kat — Sun, 29 Jun 2014 07:17:01 GMT

I don't think bias has anything to do with it. Just the idea of being considerate.

If I were to post that the 70-200mm the Tamron were superior to the Canon equivalent, that might be true but to argue about the merits of the one vs the other would, IMHO, be considered bad taste on Canon's site. The site is a forum for Canon users and their interests. Hosting a site requires a financial commitment that should not go unacknowledged. Again, it is just my opinion.

Re: Canon EOS 5D Mark III and Tamron lens

RobertTheFat — Sun, 29 Jun 2014 13:04:30 GMT

@povfrome wrote:
I’m sorry, This was my first post as a new member and I didn’t know that this site was biased against other products. I’ll make sure that in the future my posts will be only regarding Canon products if I decide to remain a member.

The person who berated you for mentioning Tamron is just being silly. I'll take your reply as mildly sarcastic.

Have you considered the somewhat newer Canon 24-70mm f/4? It's lighter and cheaper than the f/2.8, and it's image-stabilized. In my experience (limited by the fact that I've owned my 5D3 for only a month), the 5D3's low-light performance is good enough that you could probably get away with an f/4 lens, even for event photography indoors. Another good lens (which I own and like) is the 24-105mm f/4. Its obvious role is that of an outdoor walkaround lens, but I've used it successfully indoors.

Bob

Re: Canon EOS 5D Mark III and Tamron lens

RobertTheFat — Sun, 29 Jun 2014 13:23:32 GMT

@cale_kat wrote:
I don't think bias has anything to do with it. Just the idea of being considerate.
If I were to post that the 70-200mm the Tamron were superior to the Canon equivalent, that might be true but to argue about the merits of the one vs the other would, IMHO, be considered bad taste on Canon's site. The site is a forum for Canon users and their interests. Hosting a site requires a financial commitment that should not go unacknowledged. Again, it is just my opinion.

Forgive me, but I think that's mostly nonsense. Manufacturers don't run forums like this out of the kindness of their hearts. They do it to take the pulse of the user community and to try to clear up misunderstandings before they become embarrassing rumors or unsupported rants. This forum is a benefit to Canon and a benefit to us.

And if a competitor's lens is well regarded for whatever reason, it's in Canon's interest to know that and to understand why. And if a Tamron lens makes a 5D3 affordable by someone who would otherwise buy a Sony, I think Canon would gladly take his money.

Bob

Re: Canon EOS 5D Mark III and Tamron lens

ebiggs1 — Sun, 29 Jun 2014 14:24:26 GMT

I would bet you are probably long gone now but if not the real answer to your question is. IS is not really needed in a lens of this focal length if you do stills. It can be of good service to someone that does video.

The Canon 24-70mm f2.8 is the best lens on the planet. Canon forum or not all others are going to be second place.

That said the Tamrom 24-70mm f2.8 is a very good lens. Way better than most of the Tammy line and except for it and the 70-200mm f2.8, the ony two Tammy's I would recommend a Canon camera owner to buy. The rest of Tanron's line is hit and miss at best. You don't want to be the guy that got a "miss"! There are plenty out there.

Two more very close second place lenses are the Sigma pair, of 24-70mm f2.8 and 70-200mm f2.8 and would be my best choice for a 3rd party lens. Sigma has improved so much over the last five years that Canon better start paying attention or may become over run. Sigma's are very attractive.

One very big spec where the 3rd world lenses fall very short is duribility. None, I mean absolutely none, of them are "L" quality in duribility. And any lens is a combo of all it's specs not just one or two.

Re: Canon EOS 5D Mark III and Tamron lens

povfrome — Sun, 29 Jun 2014 18:02:28 GMT

Really folks, when I joined this forum I had no idea it was for only Canon related issues and did not mean to insult the hosts. I am a Canon gal. I also own a Canon 7D. I wish all my equipment could be Canon. I have just spent a great deal of time and money researching and purchasing a Canon 5D Mark III and the Canon 70-200 F/2.8 II USM IS lens. I don’t want to settle for less. But now to complete the package I really want a 24-70mm f/2.8 lens. I would have no doubts whatsoever about the Canon even at their price if it had IS. I do not want to regret not having the f.2.8 as I may be in some low light situations during my travels, or the IS as I may not be able to handle a camera and lens of that weight without a tripod. I bought the best tripod I could find made of carbon fiber( I won’t mention the name). It is compact, very light and has a load capacity of 25lbs. I plan on using it most of the time but there will be times that I just won’t have time to set it up.

I have read a lot of reviews and 90% of them regret not having IS. After comparing the Tamron with the Canon on other sites that test different products, there didn’t seem to be too much difference in performance of either lens. Canon was favored as it should be, but for the price comparison and no IS it failed to make that big of an impression. I think the manufacturers of Canon know this and will probably come out with another version that includes IS. As Bob said…“if a competitor's lens is well regarded for whatever reason, it's in Canon's interest to know that and to understand why. And if a Tamron lens makes a 5D3 affordable by someone who would otherwise buy a Sony, I think Canon would gladly take his money.” That’s an excellent point. And Bob, I have considered the Canon 24-70 f/4 but I really feel that maximum aperture over the total focal range is a plus that only 2.8 can give.

Ebbigs 1, I have considered the Sigma 24-70 f/2.8 but it doesn’t have IS. The price certainly is appealing, but the Tamron even though more expensive is a better lens (from what I‘ve read). I do agree about the L quality and durability of the Canon lens however and I would buy it if not for the IS. I am getting ready for a long trip and am in need of a wide angle zoom lens as soon as possible.

I came here to find out if anyone knew if there were any issues with the Canon mount accepting a Tamron as I have never used anything but a Canon lens on my Canon cameras. Thank you for reading my rather long winded response and I apologize if I have offended anyone.

Re: Canon EOS 5D Mark III and Tamron lens

cale_kat — Sun, 29 Jun 2014 18:27:41 GMT

I agree that it is next to impossible to discuss the purchase of a new lens without giving consideration to price. A similar debate over the "best speedlite for my XXX" came up recently and there was ample discussion of what "best" meant with some saying that the best speedlite should not be limited by price and others saying, myself included, that the best speedlite was one that was best for a particular need or use and that made less expensive speedlites better.

So, I don't think you're covering new ground here. The question of being able to afford the best 24-70 zoom is highly relevant and it should not, as you well know, be limited to a those lenses within Canon's professional series of lenses.

There is one fact of third party lenses that is without dispute and that is their uncertain future as legacy lenses to newer bodies. Canon, and other manufacturers, are increasingly tying overall imaging performace to a digital connection between lens and body. Third party manufacturers may not be able to align their products to Canon's future camera development.

It iw worth noting that there is also no guarantee that all of Canon's lenses will work on future camera bodies but it is in Canon's best interest to make their next generation of bodies compatible with as many currently used lenses as possible. (Note, the 70D is an example of a Canon body that is not compatible with a number of important Canon lenses.)

Good luck.

Re: Canon EOS 5D Mark III and Tamron lens

povfrome — Sun, 29 Jun 2014 20:39:13 GMT

That’s interesting. In fact the EFS 18-135 on my 7D will not work on my new Mark 5III, but all Canon EF and EFS lens will work on my 7D. So who knows what lies ahead for the next generation of Canon cameras and lenses? Nevertheless, I need to know if the Tamron will have AF or mount issues. What would you do if you absolutely were sold on an image stabilizer and a 24-70 f/2.8 lens? BTW, if the Canon 24-70 f/2.8 had IS I would buy it right now.

Re: Canon EOS 5D Mark III and Tamron lens

cale_kat — Sun, 29 Jun 2014 23:03:09 GMT

I'd buy the Tammy.

Re: Canon EOS 5D Mark III and Tamron lens

povfrome — Sun, 29 Jun 2014 23:50:00 GMT

Thank you. I think I will.

Re: Canon EOS 5D Mark III and Tamron lens

ebiggs1 — Mon, 30 Jun 2014 13:48:07 GMT

If you have your mind and heart set on the Tamron, I would buy it. Are you asking for permission or approval?

I doubt anything that is said here is going to change your mind. The 24-70mm f2.8 Tammy will work and work well on your 5D.

It would be interesting to see, after you have lived with the Tamron for a year, to hear of your feelings than about the IS.

I bet it changes.

Re: Canon EOS 5D Mark III and Tamron lens

povfrome — Mon, 30 Jun 2014 19:11:17 GMT

Thank you for following up on me Bob. I actually ordered the Tamron yesterday. It wasn't so much approval as opinion. I do appreciate all of your opinions and I had already decided I wanted the IS so my choices were rather limited. My main concern was if there were any third party mounting issues that anyone had heard of. I know they sell adaptors for lenses and I wanted to make sure that it didn't need one which I was pretty sure it didn't. I had read articles of where the AF was affected but I think they were talking about cameras with crop factors like my 7d. I've had several Canon cameras and have never used third party lenses on them. I was very disappointed that Canon didn't offer IS in such an expensive lens as were so many reviewers. I realize to some photographers it's not an issue as I have had a few discussions with professionals and even photojournalists of how to compensate for the lack of IS....by adjusting the ISO, the shooting speed should be 1 to 2 times the reciprocal of the lens’s focal length, brace yourself against a tree, how steady your hands are and so on. I’ve even been told which aperture and shooting speeds to use in lowlight conditions. My background is from mostly commercial photography indoors in the days before the internet and DSLR cameras. I published my own magazine and did all the photography for my clients products. I used strobe lights and bounce umbrellas in a controlled environment. Now I’m retired and travel a lot and want to get more creative with outdoor photography. Which is why I want a wide angle zoom (the 24-70 f/2.8Tamron) that can give me a large range of focal distance in combination with my 70-200 f/2.8 Canon (with IS) in any light or dark situation. I use Lightroom and Gimp and realize I can adjust imperfections to a point. But to get print quality images I knew I had to step up from my 7D crop camera and kit lens. I bought my 7D to take pictures of my oil paintings which I sell prints of on my website and online, but now I want to get away from painting and start creating digital photographs since I plan to travel more. I plan on practicing with my new equipment which I don’t have yet (probably another week) before we leave for Puerto Rico in a few weeks. As for your bet Bob, I’ll have to turn the IS off and take some shots first. If in a year from now I get better shots with it off than with it on, you’ll be on the list (albeit near the bottom as there are others way ahead of you who have made the same bet), and I will put your check in the mail. 🙂

Thanks for your help everybody and I will be back to let you know if I have any problems.

Re: Canon EOS 5D Mark III and Tamron lens

George-II — Sat, 09 Aug 2014 12:23:01 GMT

That Tamron lens will fit your camera like socks on a rooster.. There are mant satisfied posters on "other" forums that love em....Just Sayin

Good luck and best regards,

George