topic Re: Quandary Over Canon Kit Purchase in EF & RF Lenses

Quandary Over Canon Kit Purchase

ScottS — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 16:56:31 GMT

OK.

So I've been saving $$$ for a December purchase of a Canon 6D from B&H. I've been planning all along to go with the kit:

Canon 6D Camera

Canon 24-105mm F/4L IS USM

I know that many lenses are sharper, but the versatility of this seemed like a good deal at the $2099.00 price point on B&H.

Here's my quandary. The new Canon 24-105mm f/4L II IS USM has come out, and reports are that it is a much better lens. I've e-mailed and called B&H about which lens will be included in the future kit with the 6D.

And I've learned that it is the old lens, the 24-105mm f/4 L IS USM.

I'm extremely disappointed that they are not including the updated, new lens.

I guess I'm looking for feedback on the old, or places that sell the new as a kit with the 6D. What I have decided at this time is to go NEW, and to try to stay at the $2K price tag. I know that I can buy them separately, but that gets into the $2500 range.

Thoughts? I know that I can just get the 6D body for $1499, but I'll need some lens, and then my price point is still around $2K. Is that old lens worth going for?

Thanks for your wisdom!

ScottS

Re: Quandary Over Canon Kit Purchase

Waddizzle — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 17:01:27 GMT

I purchased my 6D at a substantially discounted price, compared to retailers, from Canon's Online Refurbished Store. It came with a one year warranty, and has worked flawlessly.

I also purchased their EF 24-105 f/4L IS USM lens, too, during a sale at 40% off the list price. I am quite satisfied with the lens, too. It is said that the new lens will be better, though. Although I am curious about the new lens, I am not about to replace my old one.

Re: Quandary Over Canon Kit Purchase

ScottS — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 17:06:02 GMT

Thanks for the info, Waddizzle! I always appreciate your input :)!

i, too, have purchased two lenses from Canon Refurbished, and they are flawless:

The Canon 70-200 f/4L IS USM

and

Canon 16-35mm f/4L IS USM

I may just go that route with the camera, too :)!

Re: Quandary Over Canon Kit Purchase

RobertTheFat — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 17:32:10 GMT

@Waddizzle wrote:
I purchased my 6D at a substantially discounted price, compared to retailers, from Canon's Online Refurbished Store. It came with a one year warranty, and has worked flawlessly.

I also purchased their EF 24-105 f/4L IS USM lens, too, during a sale at 40% off the list price. I am quite satisfied with the lens, too. It is said that the new lens will be better, though. Although I am curious about the new lens, I am not about to replace my old one.

I agree. I've owned the "old" 24-105 for several years and am very happy with it. I use it as the primary walkaround lens on my 5D Mk III. Its sharpness has not been an issue for me, and I'm pretty picky. The new lens will be physically longer (therefore a tighter fit in some bags), heavier, and considerably more expensive. If I wanted a new lens, I'd probably add the 24-70mm F/2.8L II (which I regard as primarily an indoor event lens, not a walker), rather than replace my 24-105.

Re: Quandary Over Canon Kit Purchase

Waddizzle — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 17:41:22 GMT

@RobertTheFat wrote:
@Waddizzle wrote:
I purchased my 6D at a substantially discounted price, compared to retailers, from Canon's Online Refurbished Store. It came with a one year warranty, and has worked flawlessly.

I also purchased their EF 24-105 f/4L IS USM lens, too, during a sale at 40% off the list price. I am quite satisfied with the lens, too. It is said that the new lens will be better, though. Although I am curious about the new lens, I am not about to replace my old one.

I agree. I've owned the "old" 24-105 for several years and am very happy with it. I use it as the primary walkaround lens on my 5D Mk III. Its sharpness has not been an issue for me, and I'm pretty picky. The new lens will be physically longer (therefore a tighter fit in some bags), heavier, and considerably more expensive. If I wanted a new lens, I'd probably add the 24-70mm F/2.8L II (which I regard as primarily an indoor event lens, not a walker), rather than replace my 24-105.

I couldn't agree more. I don't see myself replacing an excellent f/4 lens with another f/4 lens, most especially when the original isn't broken. The increased cost for the new version seems to be around 10%, which is great.

Re: Quandary Over Canon Kit Purchase

ScottS — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 19:36:29 GMT

Thanks for your input, Robert! Always appreciate your insights as well! You're reminding me that that original might be just fine for my needs :)!!

Re: Quandary Over Canon Kit Purchase

ScottyP — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 19:58:17 GMT

I've only seen one review of the new lens but if it makes you feel better the review did not consider the new lens to be dramatically better.

Re: Quandary Over Canon Kit Purchase

ebiggs1 — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 21:14:59 GMT

Scott,

"... the versatility of this seemed like a good deal at the $2099.00 price point on B&H.

The question you might ask is, "Is there a kit that includes to 'new' lens?" The new version is more expensive than the old one so I imagine the package will be more dollars. So, B&H is not likely to offer it at $2099.

As to IQ of the old version, I used them for years. I sold 1000's of prints. Not one person said, if only you had used xxx lens instead of the 24-105mm ! It is a fine lens. It has been the best buy in a Canon L lens. From the lenses you claim to have the 24-105mil will be a fine addition.

Re: Quandary Over Canon Kit Purchase

ScottS — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 23:15:35 GMT

Good to hear, Scotty P!

Thanks for sharing that :)!

Scott S

Re: Quandary Over Canon Kit Purchase

ScottS — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 23:16:45 GMT

Thanks, Ernie!

I appreciate your sharing the thousands of prints input. Clearly it's worked great for you!

I do feel better about that lens from yours, ScottyP, Waddizzle, and Robert's sharing.

Thanks again!

ScottS

Re: Quandary Over Canon Kit Purchase

ScottS — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 23:44:58 GMT

Gentlemen,

I would like to share with you, Scotty P, Waddizzle, Robert, Ernie, that since my last correspondence with you, I have made the leap on two amazing lenses. I guess that may have been evident with my initial post.

But the Canon 16-35mm F/4L IS and the Canon 70-200mm F/4L IS have been amazing :)!

The "step up" to L Series lenses has changed my photography. I'm still currently shooting with my Canon 40D. Soon I plan to add the 6D and the 24-105mm F/4 to my bag. Lots of research, lots of reading on this forum, Fred Miranda, B&H, DP Review, and more, has taught me much. I've talked with quite a few photographers on blogs and forums, and have learned much. I'm excited to continue my passion for photography with this new gear.

I do thank you four, especially, for sharing your wisdom with me. Early on, when I was posting my first question on gear, you've given me valuable support and suggestions.

Thanks for that!

Scott S 🙂

Re: Quandary Over Canon Kit Purchase

ScottyP — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 00:31:45 GMT

Congratulations! Good glass you have there, and all ready to put to use on full frame too.

Re: Quandary Over Canon Kit Purchase

ScottS — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 03:10:40 GMT

Thanks, Scotty P 🙂