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    <title>topic Re: Good everyday/walk around lens for a APS-C? in EF &amp; RF Lenses</title>
    <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Good-everyday-walk-around-lens-for-a-APS-C/m-p/260067#M6937</link>
    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/113346"&gt;@Rajjones&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Made a huge long rant of a question but I'll shorten it for ease. 80D right now, wanting to go to 6D MKII probably in a year. Wanting a EF so I can move up with it. Wanting something to replace the kit lens but not replace a 24-70mm focal range. Wouldn't mind a fast prime (already have 50mm 1.8) but don't know what focal length to look into. Any suggestions?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What do I shoot? Indoor average light no flash (not yet) / Outdoor candid &amp;amp; street no flash obviously . Wide angle like a 16-35mm wouldn't be out either but the price is a bit scary for a 2.8L III&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;An ideal walker for a full-frame camera is bound to be a bit too long on an APS-C camera. But if you really intend to go FF in a year, it's probably silly to buy any more APS-C lenses. At the moment, the ideal FF walker is the 24-105mm f/4L (I or II). That leaves your 80D lacking in the lower mid-range, but that problem is easily solved if you have some extra cash on hand: Just add the 16-35mm F/2.8L III. It's a fine FF WA lens that will be at least as useful on your future 6D as on your 80D.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2018 18:07:15 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>RobertTheFat</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2018-11-27T18:07:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Good everyday/walk around lens for a APS-C?</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Good-everyday-walk-around-lens-for-a-APS-C/m-p/259274#M6933</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Made a huge long rant of a question but I'll shorten it for ease. 80D right now, wanting to go to 6D MKII probably in a year. Wanting a EF so I can move up with it. Wanting something to replace the kit lens but not replace a 24-70mm focal range. Wouldn't mind a fast prime (already have 50mm 1.8) but don't know what focal length to look into. Any suggestions?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What do I shoot? Indoor average light no flash (not yet) / Outdoor candid &amp;amp; street no flash obviously . Wide angle like a 16-35mm wouldn't be out either but the price is a bit scary for a 2.8L III&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2018 07:27:34 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Rajjones</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-11-19T07:27:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Good everyday/walk around lens for a APS-C?</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Good-everyday-walk-around-lens-for-a-APS-C/m-p/259298#M6934</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Of course the&amp;nbsp;Canon&amp;nbsp;EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM Lens is the lens you need.&amp;nbsp; But it will not work on a FF.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;"80D right now, wanting to go to 6D MKII probably in a year."&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;You won't gain anything.&amp;nbsp; So why do you want to go FF.&amp;nbsp; Just because?&amp;nbsp; I think you need a valid reason or just say that is what I want. Just because!&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2018 15:01:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Good-everyday-walk-around-lens-for-a-APS-C/m-p/259298#M6934</guid>
      <dc:creator>ebiggs1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-11-19T15:01:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Good everyday/walk around lens for a APS-C?</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Good-everyday-walk-around-lens-for-a-APS-C/m-p/259318#M6935</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;BHPhoto has a great sale on the 16-35 right now...&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2018 18:45:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Good-everyday-walk-around-lens-for-a-APS-C/m-p/259318#M6935</guid>
      <dc:creator>kvbarkley</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-11-19T18:45:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Good everyday/walk around lens for a APS-C?</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Good-everyday-walk-around-lens-for-a-APS-C/m-p/259421#M6936</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;The EF 16-35mm f/2.8L II USM is a pretty good lens, too. &amp;nbsp;Unfortunately, the Canon Online Refurbished Store seems to be out stock on that lens, but they have a couple of others.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="https://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/ef-17-40-f-4l-usm-refurbished" target="_blank"&gt;https://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/ef-17-40-f-4l-usm-refurbished&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/ef-17-40-f-4l-usm-refurbished" target="_blank"&gt;https://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/ef-17-40-f-4l-usm-refurbished&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/ef-24-105mm-f4l-is-ii-usm-refurbished" target="_blank"&gt;https://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/ef-24-105mm-f4l-is-ii-usm-refurbished&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The best place to buy Canon gear, IMHO. &amp;nbsp;No original box, but you get the same one year warranty.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2018 23:12:07 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Good-everyday-walk-around-lens-for-a-APS-C/m-p/259421#M6936</guid>
      <dc:creator>Waddizzle</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-11-20T23:12:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Good everyday/walk around lens for a APS-C?</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Good-everyday-walk-around-lens-for-a-APS-C/m-p/260067#M6937</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/113346"&gt;@Rajjones&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Made a huge long rant of a question but I'll shorten it for ease. 80D right now, wanting to go to 6D MKII probably in a year. Wanting a EF so I can move up with it. Wanting something to replace the kit lens but not replace a 24-70mm focal range. Wouldn't mind a fast prime (already have 50mm 1.8) but don't know what focal length to look into. Any suggestions?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What do I shoot? Indoor average light no flash (not yet) / Outdoor candid &amp;amp; street no flash obviously . Wide angle like a 16-35mm wouldn't be out either but the price is a bit scary for a 2.8L III&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;An ideal walker for a full-frame camera is bound to be a bit too long on an APS-C camera. But if you really intend to go FF in a year, it's probably silly to buy any more APS-C lenses. At the moment, the ideal FF walker is the 24-105mm f/4L (I or II). That leaves your 80D lacking in the lower mid-range, but that problem is easily solved if you have some extra cash on hand: Just add the 16-35mm F/2.8L III. It's a fine FF WA lens that will be at least as useful on your future 6D as on your 80D.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2018 18:07:15 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Good-everyday-walk-around-lens-for-a-APS-C/m-p/260067#M6937</guid>
      <dc:creator>RobertTheFat</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-11-27T18:07:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Good everyday/walk around lens for a APS-C?</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Good-everyday-walk-around-lens-for-a-APS-C/m-p/260112#M6938</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;"80D right now, wanting to go to 6D MKII probably in a year."&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I would really reconsider that course.&amp;nbsp; The 6D2 is going to do what, that your 80D can't?&amp;nbsp; That could be money spent on better glass.&amp;nbsp; And, my friend, lenses are where it at. Not the camera&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2018 08:22:06 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>ebiggs1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-11-28T08:22:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Good everyday/walk around lens for a APS-C?</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Good-everyday-walk-around-lens-for-a-APS-C/m-p/260136#M6939</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/3485"&gt;@ebiggs1&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;"80D right now, wanting to go to 6D MKII probably in a year."&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I would really reconsider that course.&amp;nbsp; The 6D2 is going to do what, that your 80D can't?&amp;nbsp; That could be money spent on better glass.&amp;nbsp; And, my friend, lenses are where it at. Not the camera&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;One obvious answer to that question is that the 6D2's low-light performance is unmatched by any APS-C camera, including the 80D. If that's not important to you, Ernie is probably right.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2018 15:28:16 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>RobertTheFat</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-11-28T15:28:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Good everyday/walk around lens for a APS-C?</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Good-everyday-walk-around-lens-for-a-APS-C/m-p/260173#M6940</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/46166"&gt;@RobertTheFat&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/3485"&gt;@ebiggs1&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;"80D right now, wanting to go to 6D MKII probably in a year."&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I would really reconsider that course.&amp;nbsp; The 6D2 is going to do what, that your 80D can't?&amp;nbsp; That could be money spent on better glass.&amp;nbsp; And, my friend, lenses are where it at. Not the camera&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;One obvious answer to that question is that the 6D2's low-light performance is unmatched by any APS-C camera, including the 80D. If that's not important to you, Ernie is probably right.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;The 6D Mark II has a handful of features not found in the 80D. &amp;nbsp;The first two that came to mind are in-camera stabilization when shooting video. &amp;nbsp;It also has two automatic WB modes similar to those found in the 1Dx Mark II. &amp;nbsp;The first mode is the “grey card” WB that we are all accustomed to. &amp;nbsp;The second mode is a “white card” mode that allows to define “white” instead of “grey”.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2018 22:19:03 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Waddizzle</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-11-28T22:19:03Z</dc:date>
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