topic Re: Lens Upgrade for T3i in EF & RF Lenses

Lens Upgrade for T3i

Kashifr — Sat, 08 Jun 2024 16:54:01 GMT

Hi,I was researching to upgrade my lens collection and after confirmation from Canon's live agent I decided to go with RF 24-70 f2.8. I got so in love with this lens so much that I have started looking abroad to find a good deal.

But thanks to this community who advised me that this lens will not fit with my camera. There is another version of the same lens available in EF but it does not have image stabilizer.

Now I am debating between Canon's EF-S 17-55 f/2.8 and Sigma 24-70MM F2.8
Just wondering which one is the best option and which one provides the best sharpness.

Thank you.

Re: Lens Upgrade for T3i

Waddizzle — Sat, 08 Jun 2024 17:41:36 GMT

If you still have the RF lens, then I suggest that you upgrade to an R series camera like the R50 or R10

Re: Lens Upgrade for T3i

Kashifr — Sun, 09 Jun 2024 02:27:24 GMT

I have a Rebel T3i, two kit lenses and a 50mm prime lens.
Thank you

Re: Lens Upgrade for T3i

ebiggs1 — Tue, 11 Jun 2024 15:15:16 GMT

"Now I am debating between Canon's EF-S 17-55 f/2.8 and Sigma 24-70MM F2.8"

I have or had (I no longer own a Rebel) both of these lenses. I love the Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM Lens but the Siggy is very good too, so I consider this a toss up. I always tend to lean towards keeping all your gear all Canon if possible so I guess, I give the slight edge to the Canon.

"... I suggest that you upgrade to an R series camera like the R50 or R10"

This ain't a bad idea either.

Re: Lens Upgrade for T3i

Kashifr — Wed, 12 Jun 2024 02:30:08 GMT

Thanks for the detail reply.

I am a kind of brand addict, so I agree with you. I wish Canon's EF 24-70 has image stabilizer.

I am also considering on both lens's diameter. Canon 17-55 is 77mm and Sig 24-70 is 82. I am not technical or professional photographer. This is just came in my mind and I am not sure how significant difference it can make.

One more question. The T3i is a crop sensor, right? So I am wondering sig will give me all the benefits if I use it with T3i

Thank you

Re: Lens Upgrade for T3i

shadowsports — Wed, 12 Jun 2024 00:26:36 GMT

Greetings,

All good questions. Yes, your T3i is APS-C. If you are using a T3i, the EF-S 17-55 f2.8 is one of the finest crop sensor lenses made.

I owned the Sigma EF 24-70 f2.8 for over 5 yrs. I used it on a full frame DSLR and absolutely loved it. I bought it specifically for it's IS capability. Its notably heavier than the Canon EF 24-70. I tested both lenses before purchase and ultimately chose it over the Canon. It never let me down.

The diameter of the EF-S 17-55 is smaller. This is not due to quality. Its because this lens is designed for a camera with a smaller sensor. You should note that the Sigma lens will give you an equivalent FOV of 38-112mm on your T3i.

I never owned the EF-S 17-55, but have seen plenty of photos taken with it. Very sharp, excellent IQ.

I purchased the RF 24-70 f2.8 two years ago. Its a favorite of mine. Its has IS and pairs nicely with any of Canon's FF mirrorless body's. While it will work on any R series camera, my preference for it is FF.

If you have the RF version, I would do as my colleagues recommended and buy a mirrorless body if this is within your budget. This lens will grow with you, regardless of the mirrorless body's you own in the future.

If not, I'd go with the EF-S 17-55 on your T3i. At some point you will likely be considering a new body. This is when you can decide what format you want to go with, APS-C or full frame.

Re: Lens Upgrade for T3i

Kashifr — Wed, 12 Jun 2024 02:28:43 GMT

Hello Rick,

Good evening.

Thank you, thank you and thank you for a detailed reply and helping me. You have cleared all my doubts, questions or confusions.

Now it makes perfect sense to me why I cannot have all the benefits of 24-70 with my t3i as t3i has its limit.

I have thought about the RF and I loved RF 24-70, but I am just a hobbyist and mostly shoot while traveling. Spending that much money for an occasional hobby will be too much plus I have to hide it from Wife :). Maybe when I retire and have nothing to do, then I will consider it again.

So finally all my choices came down to Canon 17-55 f2.8. However, I have one more and most likely last question. A week ago I was also considering Canon 17-55 f2.8 and Sigma 17-50 2.8 with os. I would Appreciate it if you could please guide me a little more.

Thank you.

Re: Lens Upgrade for T3i

Tronhard — Tue, 25 Jun 2024 18:54:28 GMT

To Rick's point about Field of View. Because the issue is the sensor size, ALL lenses will be subject to what is called the 'crop multiplier' effect. The image a lens' focal length projects towards a sensor does not change as it's a physical characteristic of the lens, but Field of View is also constrained by how much of that projected image is captured by the sensor - and that is the end-product you see, display and print.

So, if we are going to discuss Field of View to get what is called an Equivalent Focal Length (translating into the lens FL a FF sensor would need to get that FoV achieved on an APS-C body) then you multiply all lens' FLs by a factor of 1.6. which is the crop factor of your Rebel camera.
Thus, the actual Field of View for any lens with your camera sensor for each lens would be FLx1.6.
On a Rebel, the Canon EF-S 17-55 x 1.6 equates to a Equivalent FoV of 27-88mm lens on a FF sensor, while the
Sigma 24-70 x 1.6 will equate to an Equivalent FoV of 38-112mm lens on a FF sensor.

For a general-purpose lens, to me, it makes sense to go with the Canon because of its short FL at t he wide end, and it is arguably the best lens specifically designed for APS-C sensor cameras.

Re: Lens Upgrade for T3i

ebiggs1 — Wed, 26 Jun 2024 15:34:05 GMT

" Its because this lens is designed for a camera with a smaller sensor."

Doesn't have anything to do with the lens design. Focal length is focal length. A lens has no clue as to what camera it is used on. If it were possible to mount the EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM Lens on a FF body it would still be a 17-55mm f/2.8 lens.

Re: Lens Upgrade for T3i

ebiggs1 — Wed, 12 Jun 2024 16:04:08 GMT

" I wish Canon's EF 24-70 has image stabilizer."

I have had three versions of the 24 (28) -70mm f2.8L and never missed them not having IS. Image stabilizers are less important or useful as FL goes down like 24mm on a FF body. It is also less useful as shutter speed goes up say 1/100 and higher. The fact manufacturers offer it on more and more lenses with shorter FL is because they can more than a necessity. Don't get me wrong here I am sure there are photographers that find situations where IS is very helpful but at what cost. Adding IS to an already expensive lens will only increase the expensive lenses price.