topic Re: Lens for Canon Rebel EOS M50? in EF & RF Lenses

EF 17-40mm f/4L USM on EOS M50?

Skiple — Wed, 02 Nov 2022 12:43:29 GMT

Hi I’m looking to buy a new lens for my camera? Does anyone have any idea if the Canom EF 17-40mm f/4L USM ultra wide angle lens will work with my eos m50? Would I just need it and an adapter or will it not work at all? If it won’t work at all what are some similar lens’ that would be compatible?

thanks

Re: Lens for Canon Rebel EOS M50?

Tronhard — Mon, 31 Oct 2022 22:33:25 GMT

The canon EOS 17-40L will work with your camera, and you will need to use the EF-EFM adapter that is available. What lens do you currently have and what is it not doing for you?

If you go with a native EF-M lens it will balance a lot better on the smaller and lighter M-series bodies, and the optics are designed for a crop-sensor body - which the FF lens such as the 17-40 will not. I have several M-series bodies and all of the lenses except the 28mm macro unit. I can personally recommend the EF-M 11-22 STM if you are looking for serious wide angle work.

Re: Lens for Canon Rebel EOS M50?

Skiple — Tue, 01 Nov 2022 15:28:41 GMT

I currently have the 15-45mm image stabilizer. I’m planning a trip to Scotland, and am wanting a lens for landscapes (far off cliffs and mountains). I read an article saying the EF 17-40mm ultra wide would be perfect for that (including the price). I have a Viltrox EF-EOS M Electronic AF Auto Focus Lens Mount Adapter (not sure if that’s the adapter I could use with it).

Re: Lens for Canon Rebel EOS M50?

Tronhard — Wed, 02 Nov 2022 01:31:22 GMT

Honestly, I have both and on your small-body camera the EF-M 11-22 will give you a wider field of view with a lot less bulk. The EF-M 15-45 you have already has a wider coverage than the EF17-40, so you have that covered. The main difference between what you have and the EF 17-40 is the wider constant aperture, but for landscapes you will not normally want to come down to f/4 - you will want depth of field and that means higher f/stop values. However, in order to get that f/4 aperture, the 17-40 is much bigger and heavier, and BTW is not stabilized, while the 1EF-M 1-22 is. If you are visiting Scotland and want to capture the insides of some of the old Kirks and castles, you will be very grateful for the extra width of view of the E F-M11-22. The image below was taken, hand-held, in available light, with the EF-M 11-22 at 11mm, the EF 17-40 would not have got the shot in the cramped area inside.
Canon EOS M5, 11-22@ 11mm, f/4, 1/500sec, ISO-500

You can even get great close-up images with the 11-22, because of the massive depth of field afforded by the short focal length, as per this hand-held shot in a park:

Canon EOS M5, 11-22@21mm, f/5.6, 1/250sec, ISO-200

Finally a shot taken at a longer focal length with the EF-M 55-200, available light, hand-held

EOS M5, 55-200@55mm, f/6.3, 1/60sec, ISO-200

If you had the 11-22, and the 15-45, I would add the EF-M 55-200 IS STM - which can also be useful for landscapes you cannot otherwise reach. There is a common misconception that landscapes are best shot with wide-angle lenses. Sure, they are used for that, but it is also an advantage to be able to reach across a valley and capture something further away, and then there is the wildlife, and taking portraits.

One thing you should consider taking is a small, light tripod for those occasions when you need a slower shutter speed - again, inside, but also for low light shots like sunsets and the blue hour after the sun has gone down. With the lighter lenses of the EF-M series you can reduce the bulk of the tripod itself as the weight and balance of the camera will both be more suitable.

I don't know how you currently hold a camera, but the best and correct way to do so is as shown on the attached image. Holding it to your eye and using the EVF will give you much more stable support than at arms length looking at the LCD. There is a reason tripods have 3 legs and not 2. The eye contact to the body of the camera gives you that 3rd point of support. That will make your shots much steadier without using a tripod.

The correct techniques

If you are not sure, rent the gear and see for yourself. I assume a trip to Scotland is not a cheap or an experience you are likely to repeat soon. So, getting the gear right before you go is definitely worth the effort. Once you have bought your gear, practise with the camera, lenses and control - especially the latter, so that you don't have to think about where they are, otherwise the camera will get in your way and slow you down.

Re: Lens for Canon Rebel EOS M50?

Skiple — Tue, 01 Nov 2022 22:35:47 GMT

Now the other question.. USM or STM for landscapes? Is the STM the better option?

Re: Lens for Canon Rebel EOS M50?

deebatman316 — Tue, 01 Nov 2022 23:31:50 GMT

USM and STM are different types of focus motors that Canon uses. STM lenses are better for video and are quieter. USM lenses are faster than STM lenses but are quite jerky when used for video.

AFD (Arc Form Drive original EOS AF Motor 1987 (no longer in use))
DC Motor (Direct Current AF Motor)
USM (Ultrasonic Motor 1989-Present)
Micro Motor 1992-Present
STM (Stepper Motor 2012)

-Demetrius

40D, 5D Mark IV, EF 16-35mm F/2.8L III USM, EF 24-70mm F/2.8L II USM, EF 28-135mm F/3.5-5.6 IS USM, EF 50 F/1.8 STM

430EX III-RT & 600EX II-RT

Re: Lens for Canon Rebel EOS M50?

Tronhard — Tue, 01 Nov 2022 23:38:47 GMT

I shoot with both. There are two generations of USM : USM and Nano-USM.

For landscape use you can shoot USN, NANO- USM OR STM. It would make more of a difference for fast moving objects like nirds in flight. All EF-M lenses ate STM and that is perfectly fime for general travel.

Re: Lens for Canon Rebel EOS M50?

deebatman316 — Tue, 01 Nov 2022 23:52:47 GMT

Don't forget about Micro Motor USM too in two versions. The first version 1992 and the 2nd revised version in 2002. This AF motor is often used in cheaper consumer lenses.

-Demetrius

EF 16-35mm F/2.8L III USM, EF 24-70mm F/2.8L II USM, EF 28-135mm F/3.5-5.6 IS USM, EF 50 F/1.8 STM

EOS 40D & 5D Mark IV

430EX III-RT & 600EX II-RT

Re: Lens for Canon Rebel EOS M50?

Tronhard — Tue, 01 Nov 2022 23:57:21 GMT

Does the OP need that level of complication complication?

They have an M50, they have a trip coming up and want lens recommendations for that.

Re: Lens for Canon Rebel EOS M50?

deebatman316 — Wed, 02 Nov 2022 00:04:47 GMT

In the opening post the OP mentioned an EF lens not EF-M. I was thinking that OP wanted to adapt EF glass. Instead of using native EF-M glass.

-Demetrius

EF 16-35mm F/2.8L III USM, EF 24-70mm F/2.8L II USM, EF 28-135mm F/3.5-5.6 IS USM, EF 50 F/1.8 STM

EOS 40D & 5D Mark IV

430EX III-RT & 600EX II-RT

Re: Lens for Canon Rebel EOS M50?

Tronhard — Wed, 02 Nov 2022 00:42:22 GMT

He wascasking if a 17-40 was going to work on his camera. Does he need a deep dive into the technicalities of lens moto systems?

I responded with a post that explained why that lens is not the best choice for his trip. Did you read that?

The 17- 40 is not the best solution for the reasons I mentioed. Plus it is optimised for FF, not an APS-C sensor. If he was using a D DSLR then maybe. But the fact is his 15-45 covers that range and more. But there are lenses he could use that are native to the M series body.

Re: Lens for Canon Rebel EOS M50?

deebatman316 — Wed, 02 Nov 2022 00:54:32 GMT

Sorry Trevor I missed some of the posts. I've been having some computer issues or forum issues I guess. The webpage doesn't load all of the way or correctly sometimes.

-Demetrius

EF 16-35mm F/2.8L III USM, EF 24-70mm F/2.8L II USM, EF 28-135mm F/3.5-5.6 IS USM, EF 50 F/1.8 STM

EOS 40D & 5D Mark IV

430EX III-RT & 600EX II-RT

Re: Lens for Canon Rebel EOS M50?

Tronhard — Wed, 02 Nov 2022 00:58:13 GMT

I agree. Since the interface changed there are posts the never seem to show and I get alerts for posts from ages ago.

Not to worry! 🙂

Re: Lens for Canon Rebel EOS M50?

deebatman316 — Wed, 02 Nov 2022 01:26:17 GMT

Since OP wants a wide angle lens. Does Canon have an EF-M equivalent of the EF-S 10-22mm or 10-18mm lenses. Or a similar focal range if an exact EF-M equivalent isn't available. I used to own the EF-S 10-22mm F/3.5-4.5 USM lens. I replaced the lens with the EF 16-35/ 2.8L III before I went FF. I ended up giving that lens along with my EF-S 17-55mm F/2.8 USM lens to a friend who started his photography journey a few years ago. As an upgrade to the 18-55/ 3.5-5.6 kit lens that he got with his Rebel T7i.

-Demetrius

EF 16-35mm F/2.8L III USM, EF 24-70mm F/2.8L II USM, EF 28-135mm F/3.5-5.6 IS USM, EF 50 F/1.8 STM

EOS 40D & 5D Mark IV

430EX III-RT & 600EX II-RT

Re: Lens for Canon Rebel EOS M50?

Tronhard — Wed, 02 Nov 2022 01:34:12 GMT

here is a link to my post about lenses

Re: Lens for Canon Rebel EOS M50?

deebatman316 — Wed, 02 Nov 2022 01:38:29 GMT

I didn't know Canon went that wide with EF-M lenses. I already knew your choices with native EF-M lenses were quite limited.

-Demetrius

EF 16-35mm F/2.8L III USM, EF 24-70mm F/2.8L II USM, EF 28-135mm F/3.5-5.6 IS USM, EF 50 F/1.8 STM

EOS 40D & 5D Mark IV

430EX III-RT & 600EX II-RT

Re: Lens for Canon Rebel EOS M50?

Tronhard — Wed, 02 Nov 2022 01:44:32 GMT

It's always good to research when dealing with these questions. I check frequently about that myself. So, Canon native lenses for the EF-M mount are: 11-22, 15-45, 18-55, 22, 28 macro, 18-150, 32 and 55-200. The size and range are designed precisely for the application that our OP is engaged with: i.e small, lenses in bulk, light, not horrifically fast (except for the three primes), great when you're on the move.

Re: Lens for Canon Rebel EOS M50?

deebatman316 — Wed, 02 Nov 2022 01:49:16 GMT

I try to use Canon's online lens and body museum. The Canon Museum doesn't have all the latest RF Mount lenses and bodies either. Even when it comes to older EF, EF-S, EF-M and camera bodies are missing.

-Demetrius

EF 16-35mm F/2.8L III USM, EF 24-70mm F/2.8L II USM, EF 28-135mm F/3.5-5.6 IS USM, EF 50 F/1.8 STM

EOS 40D & 5D Mark IV

430EX III-RT & 600EX II-RT

Re: Lens for Canon Rebel EOS M50?

Tronhard — Wed, 02 Nov 2022 01:59:26 GMT

An easy place to look is DPREVIEW.COM for their lens catalogue. They have all the types and release dates of the various versions or just do a Google search for EF-M lenses

Re: Lens for Canon Rebel EOS M50?

Skiple — Thu, 03 Nov 2022 00:01:53 GMT

I currently have the EF-M 15-45mm F/3.6-6.3, an EF-EOS M adapter, and a 50mm f/1.8.
I just purchased an EF-M 55-200mm thanks to Trevor’s advice. I’m working on getting the EF-M 11-22mm.

I will be carrying a backpack, and I’m honestly not too worried about weight as I have hiked in Alaska and Peurto Rico with a pretty heavy backpack. I’m more worried about Image stabilization, as I’m sure my hands will be shaky after a hike in the elevation.

Do y’all recommend purchasing a tripod or just the lenses with image stabilization? I’m also a little worried about lighting/weather as Scotland is known for the fog/mist. Since none of my lenses are weatherproof, any recommendations on somewhat weatherproofing them (as I can’t drop 1,000-2,000$ on the L series lenses.