topic Re: wide angle lens in EF & RF Lenses

wide angle lens

pa2pla — Sat, 27 Jul 2013 08:49:39 GMT

hi i am looking at buying a new lens for my 60d. Just wondering what people think of the ef-s 10-22mm usm. and if you love can you post a few photos thanks

Re: wide angle lens

pjmacd — Sat, 27 Jul 2013 15:42:39 GMT

This is from a night photography class. A boxcar was parked on a side street and the Chicago skyline is in the background. A truck drove through the scene during the exposure. Canon 60D, 10-22mm EF-S lens at 14mm, 25 sec, f/13, ISO 200. I really like this lens on the 60D.

Re: wide angle lens

pjmacd — Sat, 27 Jul 2013 15:45:06 GMT

A better version of the photo can be found here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pjmacd1/9375820741/

Re: wide angle lens

amfoto1 — Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:01:59 GMT

The Canon EF-S 10-22mm is an excellent ultrawide lens! I consider it the best one available for Canon APS-C cameras.

It's sharp and well corrected. It's also unusually resistant to flare (which often can be an issue with ultrawides, since they cover such an expansive angle of view.) It's the best of the ultrawides in controlling flare.

Build quality is "Canon midgrade/USM". Well above "kit" lenses, but not L-series. Of course, it's not priced like an L-series, either.

I highly recommend getting the separately sold, matching lens hood for it. it's a bit large, but works well to protect the lens.

The only minor niggles I'd have with the 10-22mm are the large hood (a bit of a pain to store in many camera bags), and the variable aperture (f3.5-f5.6). But the aperture really isn't an issue out in the field. It might be a minor issue if using the lens with manual flash, but it's unlikely I'll be using this focal length in studio anyway. Big apertures aren't really needed by most people on an ultrawide (we are usually stopping down for more depth of field anyway), still I'd prefer an f4 lens if it didn't effect other things. The variable aperture likely helps keep the lens a reasonable size and weight, as well as more affordable. It also might make for a better corrected optical formula and the extra resistance to flare I noted.

Unfortunately, I don't have any sample images online yet because I only just added a 10-22mm to my kit (I've been using a Tokina 12-24mm for some years, which I consider the 2nd best ultrawide... though the Tokina 11-16/2.8 is close, too). You really wouldn't be able to fully appreciate the image quality at Internet resolutions, anyway.

From all I've seen using it so far, and some limited experience with the lens before getting one myself, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend the 10-22mm. Get it, you'll enjoy it!

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Alan Myers

San Jose, Calif., USA
"Walk softly and carry a big lens."
GEAR: 5DII, 7D(x2), 50D(x3), some other cameras, various lenses & accessories
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Re: wide angle lens

ebiggs1 — Sun, 28 Jul 2013 14:03:03 GMT

I agree with amfoto1 almost 100%. I have had and used one for years as it was one of the first lenses I bought right after my first XTi. I give it a big thumbs up, too! It is not a "L" so don't even think so but it is very nice.

I have lots of photos taken with that combo none ready to upload to this site but I can if you still need more proof of what we've said about it. The only draw back is, it won't work on a FF camera if you ever decide to go that route in the future.

Re: wide angle lens

amfoto1 — Sun, 28 Jul 2013 18:16:29 GMT

There are hundreds of sample shots made with this lens here:

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=312255

Some images there are great. And some.... well... not so much (but no fault of the lens!)

You also can search that forum for practically any other lens you might want to compare, Canon or third party. Just be careful to be very specific. For example, there have been two versions each of the Tokina 12-24/4 and 11-16/2.8 lenses (not a lot of difference in the Canon mount... The Nikon mount versions have mcuh greater diff... a focus motor added to the second version to allow autofocus on all Nikon camera models. But Tokina chose to update all the different mounts at the same time. I think the Canon only saw some slight changes in the lens coatings, so the 2nd versions might show a little more resistance to flare). Some Sigma lenses have seen even more versions, through the years.

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Alan Myers

San Jose, Calif., USA
"Walk softly and carry a big lens."
GEAR: 5DII, 7D(x2), 50D(x3), some other cameras, various lenses & accessories
FLICKR & PRINTROOM

Re: wide angle lens

cicopo — Sun, 28 Jul 2013 14:34:51 GMT

I've never used the10-22 but have read many good reports on it & seen a lot of very nice images from it. If for some reason you don't think it will meet your needs the Sigma 12-24 is the next alternative I can recommend. It works on both crop bodies & full frame too.

Re: wide angle lens

ebiggs1 — Sun, 28 Jul 2013 15:25:06 GMT

"the Sigma 12-24 ..."

Another thumbs up. Another fantastic lens.

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LJHodson100 — Sun, 28 Jul 2013 17:11:58 GMT

Amazing lenses me and my dad own one each because he loved mine to much. Quick focusing and can get lovely snaps of the sun rising without flare I don't even bother with a hood
LJ

Re: wide angle lens

amfoto1 — Sun, 28 Jul 2013 18:26:44 GMT

" I don't even bother with a hood"

I tried to get by without it, too... It's like a small Frisbee and a bit of a pain to pack in a bag.

But then I did a little test, first without the hood...

Then the same shot with the hood (the clouds moved a little while I attached the hood)...

Even as flare resistant as the lens is, and shallow as the hood seems... that hood can help!

Re: wide angle lens

pa2pla — Mon, 29 Jul 2013 00:52:39 GMT

Thank to every one who has taken there time and replied. Shots look amazing I will look into the sigma but think canon will do me wonders. One more thing I am going to hongkong next month should I wait and buy it cheaper there or just get it from Aus

Re: wide angle lens

TCampbell — Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:06:13 GMT

Incidentally.... if you're ever wondering what images look like as taken by certain lenses, there's a website for this.

pixel-peeper.com indexes photos based on their meta data (I think the actual photos are at Flickr). E.g. you could, for example, pick the EF-S 10-22mm and they'd show you lots and lots of photos which were taken by that specific lens.

Re: wide angle lens

Skirball — Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:38:58 GMT

+1 to everything said. My only complaint with my 10-22 is that I can't use it on my full frame... but of course I knew that when I bought it. It's the best EF-S lens I've owned.

The 10-22 give you the ability to do some ultra-wide distortion shots for the artistic side, yet is highly correctable in post and allows for use in Architectural type shots where everything needs to be rectalinear. 99.9% of the Arch/RE shots I do were with the 10-22 (before I moved to full frame); a move which was funded entirely on money I made with the 10-22.