topic re lens for canon eos 6d in EF & RF Lenses

re lens for canon eos 6d

colin1325 — Wed, 17 Sep 2014 17:52:04 GMT

hello im thinking of buying a canon eos 6d

i want a wide angle lens say f1.8 that i can shoot the milky way and constelations and just star shots etc any ideas on a lens for me please is there a lens that would do a multitude of jobs for me colin

Re: re lens for canon eos 6d

Skirball — Wed, 17 Sep 2014 18:08:25 GMT

Wide angle? There are several choices for 24mm wide angle up to 1.4. I believe Sigma has a 20mm 1.8, but I don't know anything about that. Wider than that you're looking at 2.8. The 14mm 2.8 by Rokinon/Samyang is finicky, full manual, and has a wicked mustache distortion, but for $300 it's a popular full frame ultrawide.

Re: re lens for canon eos 6d

colin1325 — Wed, 17 Sep 2014 18:13:57 GMT

i wanted to keep away from fisheye lens so may have a look for sigma

Re: re lens for canon eos 6d

Skirball — Wed, 17 Sep 2014 19:48:32 GMT

None of those listed above are fish eye.

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colin1325 — Wed, 17 Sep 2014 20:54:12 GMT

thnx i found this one on ebay from a camera shop Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC Lens - CANON EF Fit

Re: re lens for canon eos 6d

hsbn — Wed, 17 Sep 2014 21:30:52 GMT

I just bought that lens (Samyang 14mm F2.8). It's great. Manual focus isn't a problem. The distortion is not a big deal for landscapes or astrophotography, and it is fixable via Lightroom lens profile.

Re: re lens for canon eos 6d

Skirball — Wed, 17 Sep 2014 21:39:40 GMT

@colin1325 wrote:
thnx i found this one on ebay from a camera shop Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC Lens - CANON EF Fit

How much is it on eBay? I got one about a year ago on Amazon for $300. If it's not significantly cheaper than that just go for Amazon. Just make sure it's the latest (has a red stripe, like the... heh... Canon L series lenses).

As HSBN said, it's a fun little lens and the distortion isn't a big deal if you're not shooting buildings and the like. It's remarkably sharp for a $300 lens.

Re: re lens for canon eos 6d

hsbn — Wed, 17 Sep 2014 22:19:21 GMT

I got mine $299 on B&H photo. 🙂 will use it for shooting autumn soon.

Re: re lens for canon eos 6d

Skirball — Wed, 17 Sep 2014 22:55:15 GMT

Yeah, I meant to say... buy it from a reputable dealer, like Amazon or B&H, over a place like eBay. Now that B&H finally got competitive with their shipping turn around I've been using them a lot more.

Re: re lens for canon eos 6d

RobertTheFat — Thu, 18 Sep 2014 12:10:14 GMT

@Skirball wrote:
Yeah, I meant to say... buy it from a reputable dealer, like Amazon or B&H, over a place like eBay. Now that B&H finally got competitive with their shipping turn around I've been using them a lot more.

This is a tad OT, but what was your previous experience with B&H and what did they change? Over the ten or so years I've been dealing with them, I've found them to be reliably faster than finding time to drive to the nearest mall. I don't doubt that my location has something to do with that; the shipping services between New York and the Boston suburbs do a remarkably good job. The biggest problem I've had is not being home (or not noticing) when they came around, and having to drive to the absurdly remote locations where they load and unload their trucks.

Re: re lens for canon eos 6d

ebiggs1 — Thu, 18 Sep 2014 14:41:27 GMT

You do not need, or is it desirable, to have, or use, a large aperture for shooting the night time sky.

Re: re lens for canon eos 6d

Skirball — Thu, 18 Sep 2014 14:41:46 GMT

@RobertTheFat wrote:
@Skirball wrote:
Yeah, I meant to say... buy it from a reputable dealer, like Amazon or B&H, over a place like eBay. Now that B&H finally got competitive with their shipping turn around I've been using them a lot more.
This is a tad OT, but what was your previous experience with B&H and what did they change? Over the ten or so years I've been dealing with them, I've found them to be reliably faster than finding time to drive to the nearest mall. I don't doubt that my location has something to do with that; the shipping services between New York and the Boston suburbs do a remarkably good job. The biggest problem I've had is not being home (or not noticing) when they came around, and having to drive to the absurdly remote locations where they load and unload their trucks.

Yes, you're practically down the street from them. It used to take a week+ to ship to the west coast. I bought my 6D from them, in a kit, along with a couple other items. Total bill was just over $3000, and they sent it via ground. It took almost a week and a half, which feels like an eternity when you're waiting for a new camera 🙂 I expect more prioritized shipping on purchases of that magnitude.

I recognize that we're in the era of instant gratification, and ordering online is not exception. But I've been an Amazon Prime member for several years now and once you get used to it there's no going back. Half of the items I order are here the next day (benefit of living in a major city), but all within two. And I'm talking cheap little trinkets. I've had $5 items shipped priority via Amazon; the shipping had to cost more than the item. Conversely, I've had orders from B&H that took two days to just to get to the carrier.

I think B&H is a great company, and try to support a camera specific company with my purchases, but it just wasn't worth it to me when I could get it the same price, much sooner, on Amazon. B&H is a big company, they need to keep up with current practice if they want to be competitive. About 6 months (?) or so ago they introduced priority shipping. I've had two orders since then and both were too the carrier that day, and here two days later. I was really glad to see it.

Re: re lens for canon eos 6d

Skirball — Thu, 18 Sep 2014 14:53:20 GMT

@ebiggs1 wrote:
You do not need, or is it desirable, to have, or use, a large aperture for shooting the night time sky.

Faster lens = more light. More light = shorter shutter speeds or smaller ISO. Smaller ISO = less noise. Shorter shutter speeds = sharper stars if you don't have tracking.

Re: re lens for canon eos 6d

colin1325 — Fri, 19 Sep 2014 08:00:39 GMT

hi around 270 quid

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colin1325 — Fri, 19 Sep 2014 08:05:53 GMT

hi thanx for your comms i just realized somethin there is no to=ilt screen on the cannon 6d ??? can anyone suggest a model with a tilt sceen? i have also looked at the sony a7 s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mctD-hu4s9U this seems a really impressive camera colin uk

Re: re lens for canon eos 6d

ebiggs1 — Fri, 19 Sep 2014 13:25:21 GMT

Yes, the Rebel T5i/700D. A lot of my astro-photography friends use them. And regardless what you may have read, a fast lens is not needed, or even desired for photographing the stars. Unless the stars have two legs, that is.

Re: re lens for canon eos 6d

colin1325 — Sat, 20 Sep 2014 18:13:08 GMT

the bigger the aperture the more light it lets in if its dark u want to be able to let in as much light as possible ..they r very useful in low light conditions and also the field of view is larger

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hsbn — Sun, 21 Sep 2014 05:13:41 GMT

Stars do not have legs but the earth is moving. As i recall, you friend use tracking mount.

Re: re lens for canon eos 6d

ebiggs1 — Sun, 21 Sep 2014 13:26:31 GMT

" As i recall, you friend use tracking mount."

And you would be correct. But I see there are other "experts" here on photographing the nighttime sky and if they believe an f1.4 is required for it, then who am I to try and set them straight. By all means have at it.

Re: re lens for canon eos 6d

Skirball — Wed, 24 Sep 2014 15:24:29 GMT

Like always, you just read the parts you want and ignore the rest. As I quite plainly stated, my reasoning for a fast lens is based off the assumption that you're not using a mount. Which, I'd assume that anybody who doesn't have basics like a wide angle lens, doesn't have an equatorial mount.