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Does anyone here have the RF 85mm F1.2 L USM DS? This thread is for you

BlueSkyApples — Tue, 03 Aug 2021 13:21:19 GMT

I wish Someone WITH The DS version would show us how it performs in low light. I mean big deal, 1.3 stops of light lless tha the STandard NON- DS version on paper. Most make it seem like the lense will simply shut off if the light isn't bright. Let's say the inside of a church at a wedding, of night time outside. Does anyone here have this lense/ If so how do you feel about its low light performance?

as I understand it, the DS versions of the rf85mm 1.2 shoots like a 1.8 or f2 due to the coating and canons admitted 1.3 stops of light loss. Ive seen a few videos where people say the NON DS version is blurrier than the DS version, but simply has smooth bokeh I want to know your thoughts. I am presented with an opportunity to purchase BOTH 70-200 and the 85 1.2 but wanted to know mores pecifically your response to the DS version.

Specifically in low light. Or natural light?

Re: Does amypme here have the RF 85mm F1.2 L USM DS? This thread is for you

jrhoffman75 — Tue, 03 Aug 2021 11:07:32 GMT

https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-RF-85mm-F1.2-L-USM-DS-Lens.aspx

Re: Does amypme here have the RF 85mm F1.2 L USM DS? This thread is for you

kvbarkley — Tue, 03 Aug 2021 12:52:08 GMT

Ken Rockwell:

"This lens is not as fast in low light as the regular RF 85mm f/1.2 lens because of these non-removable internal filters."

Re: Does anyone here have the RF 85mm F1.2 L USM DS? This thread is for you

ebiggs1 — Tue, 03 Aug 2021 13:47:27 GMT

I am not real certain and I personally do not use my ef 85mm f1.2L for low light shooting. You use it for the f1.2 aperture setting for effect.

Re: Does amypme here have the RF 85mm F1.2 L USM DS? This thread is for you

BlueSkyApples — Tue, 03 Aug 2021 15:27:46 GMT

Thank you for taking the time for the link, but I've consulted that link. It doesn't answer my question. I am seeking feedback from an "/user" owner of the lense for real world use feedback. Not spec sheets.

Re: Does amypme here have the RF 85mm F1.2 L USM DS? This thread is for you

BlueSkyApples — Tue, 03 Aug 2021 15:30:02 GMT

My previous research prior to posting informed me of the nature and "general purpose" of the lens. The information I seek hopefully is from someone that Owe and actively uses the lense to get a real work response to how it performs in lower light situations. While yes, I am aware one would bu it for the effect, but certainly an owner must have an opinion on how well the lense performs at sunset...or any conditions where abient light is not in abundance.

Re: Does anyone here have the RF 85mm F1.2 L USM DS? This thread is for you

BlueSkyApples — Tue, 03 Aug 2021 15:30:42 GMT

My question is specifically for the DS version, do you have the DS version?

Re: Does anyone here have the RF 85mm F1.2 L USM DS? This thread is for you

rs-eos — Tue, 03 Aug 2021 15:32:42 GMT

For such a specialty lens, you'd be better off renting one and trying it out yourself.

Re: Does anyone here have the RF 85mm F1.2 L USM DS? This thread is for you

BlueSkyApples — Tue, 03 Aug 2021 15:34:33 GMT

I have an itch for feedback from an actual owner. But Thank you.

Re: Does anyone here have the RF 85mm F1.2 L USM DS? This thread is for you

BlueSkyApples — Tue, 03 Aug 2021 15:35:31 GMT

I was encouraged by a canon rep on youtube to check out this forum for such a question, thats why I recently joined. Looks like not many have this lense.

Re: Does anyone here have the RF 85mm F1.2 L USM DS? This thread is for you

ebiggs1 — Tue, 03 Aug 2021 16:35:36 GMT

Any f1.2 is a speciality lens. They all require a learning curve for best results. I have both the ef 50mm f1.2L and the ef 85mm f1.2L. I love both of them but lot's of people don't. Neither is 'easy' to use at f1.2. The advice about renting one just might be a good idea for you.

I am still going to tell you they are not low light purpose lenses. Doesn't matter if it is an EF or RF or DS. The fact they all will take low light pictures is not the point. If that is your main most thing you will be disappointed. In the first place f1.2 is not a giant leap from f1.4. Think about that.

Re: Does anyone here have the RF 85mm F1.2 L USM DS? This thread is for you

kvbarkley — Tue, 03 Aug 2021 16:40:17 GMT

Ken Rockwell's review has lots of real-world examples

https://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/lenses/85mm-f12-ds.htm

Basically, it acts like an F/2 lens as far as exposure. If you want as much light as possible get the non-DS.

With modern ISO's F/2 is probably perfectly fine.

The DS is a specialty lens.

We on the forum are a subset of users.

R owners are a subset of that

R owners with this lens are a subset of *that*.

There is no guarantee that there is a user of this lens here.

Re: Does anyone here have the RF 85mm F1.2 L USM DS? This thread is for you

rs-eos — Tue, 03 Aug 2021 17:08:18 GMT

If the goal is ultimate low-light capabilities, the widest possible aperture is a great tool.

Yes, ISO performance is outstanding these days. Still, when you cannot add your own light to a scene and trying to also capture action without ending up with a blurry mess, I really like that I can go down to f/1.2.

When ISO is hovering around 6400 and shutter needs to be at least 1/125 or even 1/200, every little bit of wider aperture is great.

Re: Does anyone here have the RF 85mm F1.2 L USM DS? This thread is for you

yellowalien — Tue, 10 Dec 2024 15:07:32 GMT

I am a bit late for the show in this thread, but FWIW the 85/1.2ds was one of the first RF lenses I purchased. The smooth bokeh still gives me that wow factor to this day. I was concerned about the light-loss when deciding between non-DS and DS, but ultimately decided to go with the DS version. The reality is, even an effective f/2.0 is still plenty fast for me. The bokeh is smoother than that of the 50/1.2 which is also very sharp and I also own. Negligible chromatic aberrations and amazing sharpness wide open make the 85/1.2ds an extremely crisp lens with "ultimate" bokeh. I am using a 3-stop ND filter to stay wide open in brighter conditions.

Christopher Frost did a nice comparison between the two versions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6X0BaG4w-w