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    <title>topic Re: Canon EOS 70D Ultra Wide Lens in EF &amp; RF Lenses</title>
    <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Canon-EOS-70D-Ultra-Wide-Lens/m-p/118637#M15752</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;well&amp;nbsp; how about the new stm lens? 10-18?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2014 22:56:24 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>joe_okura</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2014-10-09T22:56:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Canon EOS 70D Ultra Wide Lens</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Canon-EOS-70D-Ultra-Wide-Lens/m-p/57401#M15739</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Headed to Banff National Park in 2014. &amp;nbsp;It has been suggested I purchase an ultra wide lens - a 16 or 17mm on full frame cameras, but a minimum focal length of 24mm. &amp;nbsp;Any suggestions for the best lens that meets this criteria?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 29 Dec 2013 20:27:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Canon-EOS-70D-Ultra-Wide-Lens/m-p/57401#M15739</guid>
      <dc:creator>kcdemby</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-12-29T20:27:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Canon EOS 70D Ultra Wide Lens</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Canon-EOS-70D-Ultra-Wide-Lens/m-p/57403#M15740</link>
      <description>EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;There are several companies that make lenses in that range... Canon's tends to get the best reviews.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;The idea is that if you need to look around to take in the view... then it's probably a good situation for a wide angle. Just keep in mind that another aspect of a wide angle lens is that it stretches the depth of the image -- things will appear farther away. For some subjects, you will find that you need to be closer than you might guess.</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 29 Dec 2013 20:32:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Canon-EOS-70D-Ultra-Wide-Lens/m-p/57403#M15740</guid>
      <dc:creator>TCampbell</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-12-29T20:32:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Canon EOS 70D Ultra Wide Lens</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Canon-EOS-70D-Ultra-Wide-Lens/m-p/57467#M15742</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Best bets are the Canon 10-22 or the Sigma 12-24 which works on both crop bodies &amp;amp; full frame bodies.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 29 Dec 2013 22:53:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Canon-EOS-70D-Ultra-Wide-Lens/m-p/57467#M15742</guid>
      <dc:creator>cicopo</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-12-29T22:53:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Canon EOS 70D Ultra Wide Lens</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Canon-EOS-70D-Ultra-Wide-Lens/m-p/57563#M15744</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I too would suggest the EF-S 10-22 which has a 16-35 field of view equivalent.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As I move from my 5DII to solely APS-C bodies, I plan on picking one up.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 30 Dec 2013 12:45:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Canon-EOS-70D-Ultra-Wide-Lens/m-p/57563#M15744</guid>
      <dc:creator>trulandphoto</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-12-30T12:45:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Canon EOS 70D Ultra Wide Lens</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Canon-EOS-70D-Ultra-Wide-Lens/m-p/57615#M15746</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="2" face="batang,apple gothic"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM&amp;nbsp;&lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://community.usa.canon.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.png" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 30 Dec 2013 14:34:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Canon-EOS-70D-Ultra-Wide-Lens/m-p/57615#M15746</guid>
      <dc:creator>ebiggs1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-12-30T14:34:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Canon EOS 70D Ultra Wide Lens</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Canon-EOS-70D-Ultra-Wide-Lens/m-p/57841#M15748</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I'd also recommend the &lt;STRONG&gt;Canon EF-S 10-22mm&lt;/STRONG&gt;. It would be one of my top choices for great image quality, unusually good&amp;nbsp;flare resistance for an ultrawide lens, plus&amp;nbsp;excellent autofocus&amp;nbsp;performance.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Personally my&amp;nbsp;close second choice would be the &lt;STRONG&gt;Tokina 12-24mm f4&lt;/STRONG&gt;. It's an excellent lens, too. Very close to the Canon in most respects and possibly even better built (it's "L-like").&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I've been using the Toki 12-24&amp;nbsp;for a number of years and have just recently bought a copy of the Canon&amp;nbsp;10-22 and am starting to use it too.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;There are also:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Tokina 11-16mm f2.8&lt;/STRONG&gt;. This is another very nice lens,might even be sharper than the 12-24, but also a&amp;nbsp;bit more expensive and more prone to flare. &amp;nbsp;more expensive than the 12-24 and more prone to flare. Also, to get f2.8 - which most people really don't need on an ultrawide -&amp;nbsp;the trade off is a very narrow range of focal lengths.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Sigma 10-20mm f4-5.6 &lt;/STRONG&gt;is one of the lower cost options.&lt;STRONG&gt; Sigma 10-20mm f3.5&lt;/STRONG&gt; is a more expensive and larger lens. It also uses larger than usual filters, more expensive 82mm. Most of the other lenses listed here use 77mm filters.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Sigma 8-16mm f4.5-5.6&lt;/STRONG&gt; is the widest lens available for APS-C crop sensor cameras (short of going to a fisheye). It cannot be uses with standard&amp;nbsp;filters, due to a strongly&amp;nbsp;convex front element.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Tamron 10-24mm f3.5-4.5&lt;/STRONG&gt; has the widest range of focal lengths in a single lens and is one of the more affordable choices. A lot of users report it's a bit soft at the 24mm end of the zoom.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you prefer a prime instead of a zoom, a &lt;STRONG&gt;Rokinon 14mm f2.8&lt;/STRONG&gt; is an affodable option. Note that this is a manual focus and manual aperture &lt;U&gt;only&lt;/U&gt; lens, so rather slow to work with. But it's got decent image quality. It also sells branded as a Samyang, ProOptic, Bower, Vivitar (13mm) and some others. All are the same lens, so shop around if you're interested in this lens. Note that it's another lens that&amp;nbsp;cannot be used with standard&amp;nbsp;filters, because it has a strongly protruding front element. All other 14mm and 15mm prime lenses are extremely expensive.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Yes, the &lt;STRONG&gt;Sigma 12-24mm f4.5-5.6&lt;/STRONG&gt; would work, too.... However I wouldn't recommend it because it's&amp;nbsp;actually a full frame capable lens and quite a bit more expensive than most of the above. Sort of a waste, you&amp;nbsp;would be&amp;nbsp;paying extra for full frame coverage and not using it at all on a crop camera such as your 70D.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;***********&lt;BR /&gt;Alan Myers&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;San Jose, Calif., USA&lt;BR /&gt;"Walk softly and carry a big lens."&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A target="_blank" href="http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=4185712&amp;amp;postcount=838&amp;quot;]GEAR"&gt;GEAR&lt;/A&gt;: 5DII, 7D(x2), 50D(x3), some other cameras, various lenses &amp;amp; accessories&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A target="_blank" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/amfoto1"&gt;FLICKR&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;amp; &lt;A target="_blank" href="http://amfoto1.printroom.com/"&gt;PRINTROOM&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 31 Dec 2013 02:05:46 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Canon-EOS-70D-Ultra-Wide-Lens/m-p/57841#M15748</guid>
      <dc:creator>amfoto1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-12-31T02:05:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Canon EOS 70D Ultra Wide Lens</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Canon-EOS-70D-Ultra-Wide-Lens/m-p/102952#M15749</link>
      <description>I have finally, after much debating in my mind upgraded to a canon 70d with a 18-135mm lens and as a bonus a 50mm f4 to complement... Now after much debate ( again...) I want to experiment with wide anglular lens shooting but as with everything in life it comes with a price...&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I'm still learning so I have many doubts...&lt;BR /&gt;What benifit would I get from buying a&lt;BR /&gt;22mm lens..?&lt;BR /&gt;Or 35 mm..?&lt;BR /&gt;I realise a 10-22mm would be ideal but the price for this type of lens is high, so much that I am considering a refurbished or secondhand one when I can. Does anyone advise against..?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Any constructive comments greatly appreciated on this subject matter.&lt;BR /&gt;Many thanks!</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2014 08:54:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Canon-EOS-70D-Ultra-Wide-Lens/m-p/102952#M15749</guid>
      <dc:creator>RichMack</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-07-06T08:54:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Canon EOS 70D Ultra Wide Lens</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Canon-EOS-70D-Ultra-Wide-Lens/m-p/118591#M15750</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Please see my post re: diffraction with the excellent 10-22mm lens. Digiquisitive.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2014 19:21:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Canon-EOS-70D-Ultra-Wide-Lens/m-p/118591#M15750</guid>
      <dc:creator>digiquisitive</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-10-09T19:21:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Canon EOS 70D Ultra Wide Lens</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Canon-EOS-70D-Ultra-Wide-Lens/m-p/118597#M15751</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/46968"&gt;@RichMack&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #800000;"&gt;I have finally, after much debating in my mind upgraded to a canon 70d with a 18-135mm lens and as a bonus a 50mm f4 to complement... Now after much debate ( again...) I want to experiment with wide anglular lens shooting but as with everything in life it comes with a price...&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #800000;"&gt;I'm still learning so I have many doubts...&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #800000;"&gt;What benifit would I get from buying a&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #800000;"&gt;22mm lens..?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #800000;"&gt;Or 35 mm..?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #800000;"&gt;I realise a 10-22mm would be ideal but the price for this type of lens is high, so much that I am considering a refurbished or secondhand one when I can. Does anyone advise against..?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #800000;"&gt;Any constructive comments greatly appreciated on this subject matter.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #800000;"&gt;Many thanks!&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;A 35mm lens is not considered a wide-angle on a 70D. It's midrange, like a 50mm lens on a 35mm film camera (if you remember that quaint item from the past). A 22mm lens is mildly WA. A true WA would be something like the Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8 (not the sharpest lens I've ever used, but a pretty good value for the money).&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2014 20:04:59 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>RobertTheFat</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-10-09T20:04:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Canon EOS 70D Ultra Wide Lens</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Canon-EOS-70D-Ultra-Wide-Lens/m-p/118637#M15752</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;well&amp;nbsp; how about the new stm lens? 10-18?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2014 22:56:24 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>joe_okura</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-10-09T22:56:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Canon EOS 70D Ultra Wide Lens</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Canon-EOS-70D-Ultra-Wide-Lens/m-p/118695#M15753</link>
      <description>Thanks, I will check that lens out</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2014 13:48:20 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>RichMack</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-10-10T13:48:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Canon EOS 70D Ultra Wide Lens</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Canon-EOS-70D-Ultra-Wide-Lens/m-p/118721#M15754</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;I'm still learning so I have many doubts...&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;EM&gt;What benifit would I get from buying a&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;EM&gt;22mm lens..?&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Or 35 mm..?&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;EM&gt;I realise a 10-22mm would be ideal but the price for this type of lens is high, so much that I am considering a refurbished or secondhand one when I can. Does anyone advise against..?&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;RichMack,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;1- 22mm = no advantage&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;2- 35mm = is considered 'normal' on a cropper.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;3- 10-22mm used or referbished, great idea but try a used one first. &amp;nbsp;&lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://community.usa.canon.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.png" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;4- stay away from Rokinon you will hate it as many others have come to.&amp;nbsp;&lt;img id="smileysad" class="emoticon emoticon-smileysad" src="https://community.usa.canon.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.png" alt="Smiley Sad" title="Smiley Sad" /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2014 18:11:13 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>ebiggs1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-10-11T18:11:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Canon EOS 70D Ultra Wide Lens</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Canon-EOS-70D-Ultra-Wide-Lens/m-p/118913#M15755</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;If you need the lens just for one trip... you might consider renting.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you need it once... rent it.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you need it often... buy it.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2014 16:44:10 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>TCampbell</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-10-11T16:44:10Z</dc:date>
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