topic Re: Canon SL1 Lens in EF & RF Lenses

Canon SL1 Lens

el_em_en_oh — Thu, 07 Apr 2016 14:28:29 GMT

Hi guys...|

I'm a beginner, and recently purchased an SL1. Very small body, but I like it, as both my wife and I can use it (she has extremely small hands).

I purchased a TAMRON 18-200mm, as an all-in-one vacation lens, and was very happy with the results (ultra wide-angle, as well as decent zoom capabilities). I also have the CANON kit lenses that came with the bundle (18-55mm & 75-300mm), as well as a CANON 50mm lens I found in a garage sale that just happened to fit.

What other Canon models will these lenses fit on?

I was to get another camera body, for myself, but would like the lenses to be interchangeable between my wife's SL1 and whatever I happen to get. I know it's got somewthing to do with EF and EF-S, but that's about all I know.

Can someone help?

LMNO

Re: Canon SL1 Lens

kvbarkley — Thu, 07 Apr 2016 14:38:51 GMT

Any of the Canon DSLR's with APS-C sensors will work with your lenses. For example, all of the rebels. You don't say, but you probably have a mixture of EF and EF-S lenses. EF lenses will work with all Canon DSLR's and the EF-S will only work with the APS-C bodies like the Rebels.

The lens itself will have an EF or EF-S marking to tell you.

Re: Canon SL1 Lens

el_em_en_oh — Thu, 07 Apr 2016 14:42:30 GMT

So a 6D or a 7D body will work with the lenses I already have?

Excuse my ignorance. When I say we're biginners, I really mean it. JUST got the camera, and are having a lot of fun learning, making mistakes, over-exposing, under-exposing, taking the odd KILLER photgraph, making massive bumbles and deleting them all, etc, etc.

We've not had this much fun learning about something in a very long time, and are steadily reading up and learning about our new favorite hobby.

Re: Canon SL1 Lens

kvbarkley — Thu, 07 Apr 2016 14:47:39 GMT

A 7D is an APS-C camera that uses EF-S lenses, so all your current lenses would work.

Sounds like you are doing the exact right method to learn your new hobby.

Re: Canon SL1 Lens

el_em_en_oh — Thu, 07 Apr 2016 16:10:28 GMT

I appreciate the information.

We've found that trial-and-error is the best way to learn the various settings (ie: F-stop, ISO, shutter-speed, etc).

And we've even been keeping our mistakes, so we know what NOT to do.

Every once and a while, out of nowhere and completely by fluke, one of us takes an absolutely STUNNING shot that's worthy of National Geographic, and then the chase begins for what the settings werer so we can try and make EVERY shot that way.

But alas... we've found that each and every location & subject & time of day & lens has it's own specific settings, depending on what your subject is.

There's SO MUCH to know & learn, and I'll be damned if I'm going to use that little green-box setting (auto-everything) ever again, nopw that we know the basics.

Again, i appreciate the information.

Re: Canon SL1 Lens

cicopo — Thu, 07 Apr 2016 16:19:36 GMT

Actually the EF S lenses will also work properly on the 10D thru 80D series. 80D is the newest member of the series so shops may be selling the 70D at discounted rates.

Re: Canon SL1 Lens

el_em_en_oh — Thu, 07 Apr 2016 16:28:37 GMT

70D? and the difference between a 7D and a 70D would be...?

I know this is a lens post, but since you mention it, thought I'd ask.

Re: Canon SL1 Lens

jrhoffman75 — Thu, 07 Apr 2016 17:51:58 GMT

http://snapsort.com/compare/Canon-EOS-70D-vs-Canon_EOS_7D

For Canon DSLR series, generally the smaller the number the higher level of features/performance.

There is the xxxD series (Rebel in North America) the xxD and the xD. Thus, 700D, 70D and 7D.

For the xxD and xxD series a higher number is a newer model - 80D newer than 70D etc.

Things get more complicated for the xD series - 1D is the highest level camera. Newer models get Mark numbers (1DX Mark II, 5d Mark III, 7D Mark II for example).

www.usa.canon.com will give you all the info you need.

Re: Canon SL1 Lens

el_em_en_oh — Thu, 07 Apr 2016 18:37:19 GMT

Holy crap, that's a bit complicated. But it seems there's method to the madness, now that I've looked at the canon website.

I appreciate the tutorial!

So a 5D has more features/performance than a 7D.

And a 5D MK1 is older than a 7D MK2, and a 1D MK3 would be the newest & best performing camera.

Did I get that right?

Re: Canon SL1 Lens

jrhoffman75 — Thu, 07 Apr 2016 18:55:57 GMT

The Mk value only applies within series. 5D Mk III is newer than 5D Mk II. 7D Mk II newer than 7D. (Actually also newer than 5D Mk III.

Also, more confusion from Canon. 1DX is newer than 1D Mk IV and 1DX Mk II newer than 1DX.

5D and 7D target different markets.

Re: Canon SL1 Lens

RobertTheFat — Thu, 07 Apr 2016 19:21:15 GMT

@jrhoffman75 wrote:

5D and 7D target different markets.

That's the conventional wisdom, and it's true to a degree. But I think you'd find that quite a few photographers (I'm one of them) have both. Not only is the 7D a lot cheaper; it's also somewhat lighter and smaller. When I'm photographing an indoor event in a large room, I usually carry two cameras; and it's nice to have one of them be a 7D.

Re: Canon SL1 Lens

el_em_en_oh — Thu, 07 Apr 2016 19:21:36 GMT

Sothat begs the question, what is the 5D target market, vs the 7D target market.

And the 1D... i'm assuming that's for professional, which I'm clearly not.

I just want to be able to take excellent quality pictures, that don't necessarily have to be the quality of a National Geographic photograph (but if they turn out that way, so much the better).

The 7D is what I THINK i'm after, but maybe not?

Re: Canon SL1 Lens

el_em_en_oh — Thu, 07 Apr 2016 19:25:59 GMT

Difference between the 5D and the 7D being...?

(Sorry that my oroiginal lens question has morphed into something else entriely. this is my first time on this message board, so i'm breaking any rules by posting this here, let me know please)

Re: Canon SL1 Lens

jrhoffman75 — Thu, 07 Apr 2016 19:26:39 GMT

http://www.imaging-resource.com/cameras/canon/5d-mark-iii/vs/canon/7d-mark-ii/

Re: Canon SL1 Lens

el_em_en_oh — Thu, 07 Apr 2016 19:29:28 GMT

Got it... 5D better in extremelyu low light (that's my take-away anyway)...

Re: Canon SL1 Lens

cicopo — Thu, 07 Apr 2016 20:03:07 GMT

The 5D series (and the 6D) are full frame & do not work properly with lenses designed for the crop bodies. Some brands will mount properly but the photos look like you shot through a pipe because they are designed to cover ONLY the smaller sensor area of an APS C body.

The 7D & revised upgrade of the 7D2 are aimed at sports type photyography with better AF systems & FPS rates than the xxD bodies available at the same time. They cost more because of the extra features but still were the same megapixel sensor.

to me the most important difference between the Rebel series & the others is the rear control wheel which can be used to change your exposure very quickly thru Exposure Compensation. I find it much slower to do when using a Rebel body BUT I've never owned one so that may be why I'm slow at it. I get handed cameras to set up at events so their users get decent results while learning how to use them properly & I prefer the rear wheel system.

Re: Canon SL1 Lens

ScottyP — Fri, 08 Apr 2016 03:46:04 GMT

EF lenses mount on both full frame and crop bodies.

EF-s lenses only mount on the crop bodies.

Your 50mm is almost certainly an EF lens. The 18-55 and 75-300 are EF-s.

Re: Canon SL1 Lens

ScottyP — Fri, 08 Apr 2016 04:00:34 GMT

As for the bodies, the larger full frame sensor works better in low light. That is very important in photography but nevertheless 90% of DSLR photographers use crop bodies exclusively and they get by without full frame.

Re: Canon SL1 Lens

cicopo — Fri, 08 Apr 2016 13:42:39 GMT

I think it's important to note that the term of EF-S as the mount ONLY gets used by Canon (as far as I know) and in all cases I've run into Sigma & Tamron lenses DESIGNED for the EF-S mount will mount to bodies designed for EF only lenses & so far none have caused any issues other than the fact they don't cover the entire sensor with the image. None of the 3rd party lenses I've owned projected into the mirror box area BUT I haven't owned that many of either brand. I have owned more 3rd party lenses than EF-S lenses though, and I've read that most do indeed protrude into the mirror box area which could damage things if used on a full frame body.

Edited to add that it says you have the Tamron 18-200 which I haven't owned but I did own their 18-270 & it will mount of all 3 forms of Canon body, the 1.6, 1.3 & full frame sensor versions so I suspect the 18-200 would too (The Sigma's did) but as I said earlier it will look like you shot through a pipe through part of it's rrange. I did do a thread here a long time ago showing that effect but don't have the link to it.

Re: Canon SL1 Lens

ebiggs1 — Sat, 09 Apr 2016 13:30:02 GMT

I have a ton of lenses in both formats, crop and FF. I am not willing to say all off brand crop lenses will work without fear of damage. At least not on a Canon camera. Maybe they will but I would not recommend it. On brand-N, I will say there isn't any problem.

Generally, in the past anyway, the cheaper 3rd party lenses, like the ones for crop bodies, aren't worth buying in the first place.

Pretty junkie lenses. IMHO, of course.