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    <title>topic Re: B&amp;amp;H Sold its $180,000 Canon EF 1200mm Lens in EF &amp; RF Lenses</title>
    <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/B-amp-H-Sold-its-180-000-Canon-EF-1200mm-Lens/m-p/163773#M14842</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Bob from Boston,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It is , yet again, another reason to not use MTF's as a judge on how useful a lens performance will be.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;On the recovery of the coin dropped on this thing, there must be a reasonaeble expectation. &amp;nbsp;Because SI and NatGeo are supposed to each &lt;U&gt;have two of them&lt;/U&gt;!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2016 14:34:27 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>ebiggs1</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2016-02-07T14:34:27Z</dc:date>
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      <title>B&amp;H Sold its $180,000 Canon EF 1200mm Lens</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/B-amp-H-Sold-its-180-000-Canon-EF-1200mm-Lens/m-p/163648#M14836</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;The massive Canon EF 1200mm f/5.6L USM lens that’s been for sale at B&amp;amp;H Photo since 2008 finally went home yesterday to a lucky photographer, who also has a much lighter wallet.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG src="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/8879i9C1E96FECA074B73/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&amp;amp;px=-1" border="0" alt="Canon-1200mm-Lens.jpg" title="Canon-1200mm-Lens.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The EF 1200mm f/5.6L USM lens is the longest fixed telephoto lens ever built by Canon. It contains 13 elements (2 Fluorite) in 10 groups and focuses down to 49.5-feet. It has an angle-of-view of about 2° when used on a full frame camera. About&amp;nbsp;20 of these lenses were ever made by Canon. The product page at B&amp;amp;H for this lens confirms that it has no more in stock.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Did you miss out?&amp;nbsp;&lt;img id="smileywink" class="emoticon emoticon-smileywink" src="https://community.usa.canon.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.png" alt="Smiley Wink" title="Smiley Wink" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2016 18:32:30 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>ebiggs1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-05T18:32:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: B&amp;H Sold its $180,000 Canon EF 1200mm Lens</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/B-amp-H-Sold-its-180-000-Canon-EF-1200mm-Lens/m-p/163651#M14837</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Probably to a hiker. Pair it with a nice light mirror less M body (via adaptor) and maybe tale a super light carbon fiber tripod to keep weight down and you could scamper up hills and mountains. &amp;nbsp;Just you and your camera. And your pack mule or Sherpa.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2016 20:01:25 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>ScottyP</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-05T20:01:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: B&amp;H Sold its $180,000 Canon EF 1200mm Lens</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/B-amp-H-Sold-its-180-000-Canon-EF-1200mm-Lens/m-p/163655#M14838</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;That's&amp;nbsp;must be an&amp;nbsp;old photo.&amp;nbsp; I wish I could buy&amp;nbsp;one of those&amp;nbsp;high hats that it's mounted on.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Seems to me a good&amp;nbsp;telescope would have been cheaper.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2016 21:00:37 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Waddizzle</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-05T21:00:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: B&amp;H Sold its $180,000 Canon EF 1200mm Lens</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/B-amp-H-Sold-its-180-000-Canon-EF-1200mm-Lens/m-p/163698#M14839</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;"That's&amp;nbsp;must be an&amp;nbsp;old photo."&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Does not matter. &amp;nbsp;The lens sit there for 8 years!&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2016 10:43:19 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>ebiggs1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-06T10:43:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: B&amp;H Sold its $180,000 Canon EF 1200mm Lens</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/B-amp-H-Sold-its-180-000-Canon-EF-1200mm-Lens/m-p/163727#M14840</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Just to give you an idea of how far lens design and manufacturing has come in the last 30 years.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What is purported to be the EF 1200mm f/5.6L's MTF.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG src="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/8882iE1B583B9A2C66FEF/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&amp;amp;px=-1" border="0" alt="ef_1200mm_f5.6l_usm_mtf.gif" title="ef_1200mm_f5.6l_usm_mtf.gif" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Compared to the MTF for the EF 600mm f/4L IS II with a 2X teleconverter.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG src="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/8883iFC89FE281E96141E/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&amp;amp;px=-1" border="0" alt="EF 600mm f/4L IS II USM with 2X TC MTF" title="EF 600mm f/4L IS II USM with 2X TC MTF" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Yes, I know the EF 1200mm f/5.6L has a one stop advantage.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2016 18:04:42 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>TTMartin</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-06T18:04:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: B&amp;H Sold its $180,000 Canon EF 1200mm Lens</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/B-amp-H-Sold-its-180-000-Canon-EF-1200mm-Lens/m-p/163751#M14841</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/60045"&gt;@TTMartin&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Just to give you an idea of how far lens design and manufacturing has come in the last 30 years.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What is purported to be the EF 1200mm f/5.6L's MTF.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG src="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/8882iE1B583B9A2C66FEF/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&amp;amp;px=-1" border="0" alt="ef_1200mm_f5.6l_usm_mtf.gif" title="ef_1200mm_f5.6l_usm_mtf.gif" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Compared to the MTF for the EF 600mm f/4L IS II with a 2X teleconverter.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG src="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/8883iFC89FE281E96141E/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&amp;amp;px=-1" border="0" alt="EF 600mm f/4L IS II USM with 2X TC MTF" title="EF 600mm f/4L IS II USM with 2X TC MTF" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Yes, I know the EF 1200mm f/5.6L has a one stop advantage.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I don't think the lens's performance makes a particle of difference. With an item like that, the price is the product. No one will live long enough to get $180,000 worth of use out of it as a piece of photographic equipment. It's something to show off and/or brag about.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Let's put it this way: If I thought that Donald Trump would know what it was, I might suspect that he bought it.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2016 22:22:00 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>RobertTheFat</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-06T22:22:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: B&amp;H Sold its $180,000 Canon EF 1200mm Lens</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/B-amp-H-Sold-its-180-000-Canon-EF-1200mm-Lens/m-p/163773#M14842</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Bob from Boston,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It is , yet again, another reason to not use MTF's as a judge on how useful a lens performance will be.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;On the recovery of the coin dropped on this thing, there must be a reasonaeble expectation. &amp;nbsp;Because SI and NatGeo are supposed to each &lt;U&gt;have two of them&lt;/U&gt;!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2016 14:34:27 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>ebiggs1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-07T14:34:27Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: B&amp;H Sold its $180,000 Canon EF 1200mm Lens</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/B-amp-H-Sold-its-180-000-Canon-EF-1200mm-Lens/m-p/163776#M14843</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/3485"&gt;@ebiggs1&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Bob from Boston,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It is , yet again, another reason to not use MTF's as a judge on how useful a lens performance will be.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;On the recovery of the coin dropped on this thing, there must be a reasonaeble expectation. &amp;nbsp;Because SI and NatGeo are supposed to each &lt;U&gt;have two of them&lt;/U&gt;!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;When SI and NatGeo bought their lenses the EF 600mm f/4 IS II was not available. So when SI and NatGeo bought their lenses yes they could probably justify the expense. Today I doubt that they could.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;And Bob from Boston is right the person who just bought the lens, did so as a status symbol or as a collectors item.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What is wonderful is now we have STM lenses for a few hundred&amp;nbsp;dollars that match the IQ of thousand dollar plus L lenses from just 15-20 years ago, and we have lenses like the EF 600mm f/4L IS II that while still a hefty&amp;nbsp;$12,000 gives better performance&amp;nbsp;than a 20 year old design costing more than 10 times as much.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;And you're right &lt;SPAN&gt;ebiggs1 the MTFs doen't take into account the EF 600mm f/4L IS II has image stabilization so it doesn't tell the whole story.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2016 14:50:28 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>TTMartin</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-07T14:50:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: B&amp;H Sold its $180,000 Canon EF 1200mm Lens</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/B-amp-H-Sold-its-180-000-Canon-EF-1200mm-Lens/m-p/163778#M14844</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;"What is wonderful is now we have STM lenses for a few hundred&amp;nbsp;dollars that match the IQ of thousand dollar plus L lenses from just 15-20 years ago ..."&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Amen to that and so very true. &amp;nbsp;After wasting my money and a lot of time trying to convert a couple of my old great white (pride and joys) lenses, I slowly came to the fact, it just isn't worth it.&amp;nbsp;&lt;img id="smileysad" class="emoticon emoticon-smileysad" src="https://community.usa.canon.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.png" alt="Smiley Sad" title="Smiley Sad" /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Maybe since Canon, and not me, did the conversion from FD to EOS on this guy, it turned out better. &lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://community.usa.canon.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.png" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&amp;nbsp; I assume they kept the optics intact but little else. &amp;nbsp;Even ridding it of manual focus. &amp;nbsp;MF is accomplished by the EF motor now.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;My understanding is neither SI nor NatGeo bought the lenses at the same time. &amp;nbsp;If that is true they must have seen some real benefit to owning them.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Not many private working pros can justify that purchase. &amp;nbsp;Though, what do I know? I never touched one or even seen a real one!&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2016 15:02:15 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>ebiggs1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-07T15:02:15Z</dc:date>
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