topic Re: Lens Choices in EF & RF Lenses

Lens Choices

dmb3073 — Wed, 23 Oct 2019 18:45:10 GMT

Hello!

New here to the forum. I'm returning back into the photography world after 10 plus years with almost no portrait experience, besides my own kids and family (only in it for a short time for architect). I've recently purchases an entry level DSLR (Canon Rebel T6) to be sure that this is something I wanted to pursue before spending an abundant amount of money on better equipment. I figured if I sucked at it at least I'll put it to use with my 3 very active kids! I've completed several portrait sessions and sports games using the standard 18-55mm & 75-300mm kit lens just for the practice and to get my name out there. They turned out just fine but with more post editing time than I would have liked though. I researched for several weeks for lenses to step up my game, because let's face it even used "ugly" lenses are an investment and I want to make the best choices financially and not just jump to buy any old lens! I took the numerous recommendations of every photographer needs to have the "nifty fifty" and just purchased the 50mm lens. I used the lens the same day I received it and the images turned out fantastic, some of them absolutely breathtaking!! Very little to some of them not needing any post editing. Funny, it turns out I have an eye for it!!! I've looked to go beyond that with additional lenses that will push me even further but at the same time not sacrificing my mortgage even for a used lens. Looking for recommendations for a "go to" lens. I like the variable zoom ability but I know with that I'll have to sacrifice that wide aperture that is so desired. I've looked at purchasing an 85mm, 18-200mm, 18-125, and/or several others. Ideally I would love the 70-200mm Canon lens but right now at $2000 that isn't practical even finding it used or a third party used. There has been many different reviews and personal preferences for the lenses I've researched trying to decide. Looking for some guidance that will help choose the next lens that will be a step up!! Thanks in advance

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ebiggs1 — Thu, 24 Oct 2019 14:30:54 GMT

I don't want to sound harsh because I truly want to see you succeed at the lowest possible cost. So right off you are going at it wrong. You are going to buy everything two or three times. That is not the way to keep costs down. I would say stop buying and start thinking.

If I found myself in your shoes today I would sell all the lenses you have and start a new. My first choice for a goto lens is the outstanding Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM Lens. I doubt you will ever, to very little anyway, use the so-called nifty-fifty once you get this lens. And certainly never even pick up the kit lens again so sell'em.

Now stop! Again, think what is the Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM Lens not doing for me? Oh, I need a more tele lens or perhaps I need an ultra wide angle (UAW) lens. Then find the best high quality lens possible to fill that requirement.

An all purpose lens doesn't get any better than the Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM Lens. The best part, it is a one time purchase because it will stick with you as up upgrade your T6 to a T7i or T8i or even a 90D.

You say you have checked out the 70-200mm zoom lens. The Canon is the best lens made, period. Expensive, yes, but there is always the used market. It is a tough lens and one that can be repaired if need be so a good candidate used.

If you want to consider third party lenses check out the Tamron G2 version.

Whatever you do don't buy anymore until you think this out.

My thoughts about 50mm lenses. Any prime lens is a special purpose lens. Zooms are far more useful. Most guys recommend 50mil for one reason, it is cheap. Yes, it has a very open aperture of f1.8 but that is not a deal breaker or maker if you are comparing it to a fixed aperture f2.8 zoom. Compared to the kit lens, yeah, that's a big deal.

Check out the Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM Lens.

Re: Lens Choices

dmb3073 — Thu, 24 Oct 2019 12:34:53 GMT

Thanks for the advise

I actually did look into the 17-55mm lens as an option and thanks for the recommendation as this is why I asked the forum before I started dumping money into wasted lenses

I've looked into used lenses for the 70-200mm and even the Tamron version but even used right now that's simply not financially possible. This will have to be on my wish list to save for the next 6+ months

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ebiggs1 — Thu, 24 Oct 2019 14:36:27 GMT

The good thing about the Canon ef 70-200mm f2.8L is, it is also a one time purchase and even better than the 17-55mm f2.8, it can be used on any new camera even a FF camera. It is built strong. Buy it once and forget it, you will have it forever,

If you go Tamron make sure it is a G2 version. The G2 is better than the original. Keep in mind the Tammy is not as well built but it is half the price. Service is not as strong as Canon but it is getting better.

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ranger63 — Fri, 25 Oct 2019 15:00:18 GMT

Mr. Biggs

Recently purchased the 70 200mm f2.8L ii which works great on my 7D Mark ii. Tryed it on my T5i and on TV mode(taking football pic) the auto focus did not function. I'm a hobby photographer and can't seem to find the solution. Please help.

Thank You

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kvbarkley — Fri, 25 Oct 2019 15:03:46 GMT

It should work just fine. What did the AF actually do? Did it try to AF, or did it just sit there?

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ranger63 — Fri, 25 Oct 2019 15:09:19 GMT

I can hear the len focusing but no focusing can be seen when looking through the view finder.

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ranger63 — Fri, 25 Oct 2019 15:15:02 GMT

also, when the mode is set to sport mode the lens works fine and is very fast to focus.

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ebiggs1 — Fri, 25 Oct 2019 15:39:01 GMT

"...works great on my 7D Mark ii. Tryed it on my T5i and on TV mode..."

First off reset both cameras to defaults. Menus, tools clear all settings and all custom settings. Ok we are now back to square one.

"Recently purchased the 70 200mm f2.8L ii "

This was a brand new lens or a used one?

The test is to now put the T5i in "P" mode. ISO 400, auto WB. Select and choose just the center focus point with One shot. Do not use Ai-servo. Lens set to AF, 1.2m, stabilizer on, mode 1. On a nice sunny day go outside to a nice park or someplace with interesting subjects and try it. Try something with good contrast and vertical lines. It it works, there is nothing wrong with the lens and camera. You had something set wrong.

If you don't know how to do these suggestions check your manual.

If you truly want to get top notch photos forget using 'Sport' mode or any of the other ones. Use P, Av, or Tv. There will be little times where M mode helps if you learn these. Even if you are a beginner, you can take some clues form the pros. Their cameras do not have sport mode or mountain mode or flower mode at all. So you shouldn't use them either.

Do the test and get back.

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ranger63 — Fri, 25 Oct 2019 19:42:06 GMT

Thank You, will work on it this weekend and get back to you.

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ranger63 — Fri, 25 Oct 2019 19:45:24 GMT

Sorry, it was a used len too. Thanks

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ebiggs1 — Fri, 25 Oct 2019 21:10:08 GMT

OK, I figured it was. That is even more of a reason to do the test exactly as I outlined it. How long ago was the purchase and is there a guarantee that came with it?

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ranger63 — Fri, 25 Oct 2019 22:16:04 GMT

two weeks ago and a 30 day money back on ebay.

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ranger63 — Fri, 25 Oct 2019 22:35:15 GMT

Mr. Biggs

You DA Man! Just got home and followed your instructions and presto! My T5i/ 70-200mm 2.8L IS II USM is taking great pics in TV, AV, P and M modes.

Thank You so much.

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jrhoffman75 — Sun, 27 Oct 2019 17:39:26 GMT

Welcome dmb.

If you aren't wedded to needing an f/2.8 max aperture the Canon 70-200 f/4L IS lens can be had used for about $700.

A lighter fitment to a Rebel series body.

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ebiggs1 — Sun, 27 Oct 2019 17:43:38 GMT

"You DA Man!"

Fantastic now go out and enjoy it.

"the Canon 70-200 f/4L IS lens can be had used for about $700.

A lighter fitment to a Rebel series body."

Not! Don't do that. You have the world's best 70-200mm zoom lens. Period, there is no better lens made.

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jrhoffman75 — Sun, 27 Oct 2019 18:11:25 GMT

@ebiggs1 wrote:

Not! Don't do that. You have the world's best 70-200mm zoom lens. Period, there is no better lens made.

Not disputing that. But if you read closely, OP said "Ideally I would love the 70-200mm Canon lens but right now at $2000 that isn't practical even finding it used or a third party used"

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Caon+70-200+f%2f4L+vs+f%2f2.8L&&view=detail&mid=FA4DB525ABC2FA5C593EFA4DB525ABC2FA5C593E&&FORM=VDRVRV

But maybe Matt Granger isn't a serious photographer.

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ebiggs1 — Sun, 27 Oct 2019 19:48:27 GMT

However, he has the f2.8, "My T5i/ 70-200mm 2.8L IS II USM is taking great pics"

Absoluely no reason to exchange it for the f4, no matter what Matt Grainger says.

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jrhoffman75 — Sun, 27 Oct 2019 19:59:34 GMT

You are confusing postings because the T5i guy jumped on to dmb’s initial posting. Go back to the first posting.

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ebiggs1 — Sun, 27 Oct 2019 20:56:48 GMT

OK I see that we have two posters now. However, my advice still stands as that guy says, "This will have to be on my wish list to save for the next 6+ months".

If you have to save up for the best, do it! I hate to see people 'settle' and later wish they had not. Usually compromising on a less anything winds up costing you more. Not saving you anything.

I do like Matt Grainger but I hardly ever put much stock in what inner web reviewers say or think. I rarely watch them. Don't care a bit for Northrup or DXO. I prefer my own experience. I know a lot of you guys do, though.