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    <title>topic Re: Rear mark on rear element on Canon 17-55mm Lens in EF &amp; RF Lenses</title>
    <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Rear-mark-on-rear-element-on-Canon-17-55mm-Lens/m-p/325681#M1314</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;"...this lens has lens creep."&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My copy does not creep, at all. &amp;nbsp;I agree with the others, send it back for a full refund. &amp;nbsp;I do not feel eBay is a good source for used camera gear. &amp;nbsp;I assume that you need to pay for the return shipping to get a refund. &amp;nbsp;Reputable dealers would pay for it.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2020 16:45:18 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Waddizzle</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2020-11-28T16:45:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Rear mark on rear element on Canon 17-55mm Lens</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Rear-mark-on-rear-element-on-Canon-17-55mm-Lens/m-p/325673#M1311</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello Everyone,&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp;I bought a new Canon 90D and for it, I got a Canon 17-55mm 2.8/f USM lens.&lt;BR /&gt;The lens I got used from eBay and just came in.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Putting the lens up to the light, you can see a mark that looks like a scratch on the intereal side of the rear element ( not sure the correct name for that part is).&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I am not sure if it is a scratch, fungus, or something else. Any ideas?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;On a quick video test, I don't see it, but I will be doing some deeper test in a little bit to see if you can see it from pictures.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;How much work would it be for a shop to open it up and check it?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Another issue is this lens has lens creep.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;So far I'm thinking it might be better to return the lens and find another one. Wanted peoples thoughts here.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG src="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/26091iC4AAF7D41ADAF6C9/image-size/original?v=1.0&amp;amp;px=-1" border="0" alt="20201128_100854.jpg" title="20201128_100854.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2020 15:44:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Rear-mark-on-rear-element-on-Canon-17-55mm-Lens/m-p/325673#M1311</guid>
      <dc:creator>Texas</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-11-28T15:44:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Rear mark on rear element on Canon 17-55mm Lens</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Rear-mark-on-rear-element-on-Canon-17-55mm-Lens/m-p/325675#M1312</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;"...I'm thinking it might be better to return the lens and find another one."&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;This is the correct action to take, but................&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;"...a mark that looks like a scratch on the intereal side of the rear element&amp;nbsp;..."&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;May never show up in normal general use. However, I would not&amp;nbsp;and would never accept it and neither&amp;nbsp;should you.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;"...this lens has lens creep."&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Pretty common with any zoom&amp;nbsp;lens.&amp;nbsp; Some&amp;nbsp;have it worse than others. Some have a zoom lock to prevent it.&amp;nbsp; It is no biggie but if it is really excessive it may mean the lens&amp;nbsp;has seen extensive use or abuse.&amp;nbsp; Again, this&amp;nbsp;is a return candidate. The one issue might be if it was clearly stated as such in the description&amp;nbsp;on eBay,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2020 16:05:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Rear-mark-on-rear-element-on-Canon-17-55mm-Lens/m-p/325675#M1312</guid>
      <dc:creator>ebiggs1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-11-28T16:05:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Rear mark on rear element on Canon 17-55mm Lens</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Rear-mark-on-rear-element-on-Canon-17-55mm-Lens/m-p/325678#M1313</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I agree with Ernie that it needs to go back.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Whatever it is won't get better and ANY damage or aberration on the inside of a lens would be of greater concern.&amp;nbsp; Something caused that defect and on the inside of a lens it is probably:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1. fungus or&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2. damage when somebody who shouldn't have decided to take a lens apart or&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;3. damage from something inside the lens&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;But regardless of root cause, this isn't a rare lens and you don't want to own or rely upon one with an obvious problem.&amp;nbsp; Don't think about taking it to a camera shop, you don't want to own the problem.&amp;nbsp; Return it via Ebay.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Rodger&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2020 16:29:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Rear-mark-on-rear-element-on-Canon-17-55mm-Lens/m-p/325678#M1313</guid>
      <dc:creator>wq9nsc</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-11-28T16:29:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Rear mark on rear element on Canon 17-55mm Lens</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Rear-mark-on-rear-element-on-Canon-17-55mm-Lens/m-p/325681#M1314</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;"...this lens has lens creep."&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My copy does not creep, at all. &amp;nbsp;I agree with the others, send it back for a full refund. &amp;nbsp;I do not feel eBay is a good source for used camera gear. &amp;nbsp;I assume that you need to pay for the return shipping to get a refund. &amp;nbsp;Reputable dealers would pay for it.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2020 16:45:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Rear-mark-on-rear-element-on-Canon-17-55mm-Lens/m-p/325681#M1314</guid>
      <dc:creator>Waddizzle</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-11-28T16:45:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Rear mark on rear element on Canon 17-55mm Lens</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Rear-mark-on-rear-element-on-Canon-17-55mm-Lens/m-p/325683#M1315</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Update:&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Found another issue, the after closing to f22, the lens will not open back up. So I am trying to return it. The ebay listing does say seller doesn't allow returns, however he did put that the lens is in "excellent condition".&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thanks for your help&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2020 16:51:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Rear-mark-on-rear-element-on-Canon-17-55mm-Lens/m-p/325683#M1315</guid>
      <dc:creator>Texas</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-11-28T16:51:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Rear mark on rear element on Canon 17-55mm Lens</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Rear-mark-on-rear-element-on-Canon-17-55mm-Lens/m-p/325685#M1316</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/156338"&gt;@Texas&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Update:&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Found another issue, the after closing to f22, the lens will not open back up. So I am trying to return it. The ebay listing does say seller doesn't allow returns, however he did put that the lens is in "excellent condition".&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thanks for your help&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Good luck. &amp;nbsp;A "no returns" policy would have been a red flag for me. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2020 17:01:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Rear-mark-on-rear-element-on-Canon-17-55mm-Lens/m-p/325685#M1316</guid>
      <dc:creator>Waddizzle</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-11-28T17:01:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Rear mark on rear element on Canon 17-55mm Lens</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Rear-mark-on-rear-element-on-Canon-17-55mm-Lens/m-p/325689#M1317</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;When an item is not as described, ebay has a very strong policy that the seller must take it back regardless of their no return policy.&amp;nbsp; Clearly your lens is NOT in excellent&amp;nbsp;condition and is not functional.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Paypal also has a very strong buyer protection policy.&amp;nbsp; Start the process immediately and take pictures/document everything.&amp;nbsp; Most sellers are honest and to provide the benefit of the doubt, the seller may not know much about lenses and didn't know it was defective.&amp;nbsp; But do NOT let the seller tangle you up in a long process or otherwise you may end up&amp;nbsp;keeping the lens.&amp;nbsp; Do all communication through the ebay message system starting with your notification to the seller that it was not as described so that they have a well documented trail to follow.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have only had one major issue with ebay and&amp;nbsp;although ebay quickly sided with me, Paypal ultimately had to get involved to finalize the refund.&amp;nbsp; It was an expensive piece of industrial gear, the seller had an excellent rating, but had a 1,001 excuses why it still hadn't been shipped.&amp;nbsp; The system can be a pain to navigate but it works.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Rodger&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2020 17:38:25 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>wq9nsc</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-11-28T17:38:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Rear mark on rear element on Canon 17-55mm Lens</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Rear-mark-on-rear-element-on-Canon-17-55mm-Lens/m-p/325704#M1318</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Moral of the story.&amp;nbsp; Save yourself the grief, aggravation, and loss of time you will never get back and buy new or refurb.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Whatever $$$ that was "saved" is now out the window.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2020 19:30:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EF-RF-Lenses/Rear-mark-on-rear-element-on-Canon-17-55mm-Lens/m-p/325704#M1318</guid>
      <dc:creator>shadowsports</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-11-28T19:30:39Z</dc:date>
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