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    <title>topic IP-8720 Not Printing Dark Enough &amp;amp; Pigment vs. Dye Ink in Desktop Inkjet Printers</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Just got an IP-8720 and it is printing black OK but I need it to print darker.&amp;nbsp; I am printing onto a translucent inkjet film.&amp;nbsp; The part I am printing is used to tightly press against a light-sensitive photoresist file and then exposed to a UV light.&amp;nbsp; The graphic I am printing is needed to block the light from getting through to the photoresist film and is best to use pigment ink but more on that in a sec.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What I found out is I have tried a number of settings to get this to print a dark image but they all seem to end up about the same darkness which is almost a dark, dark gray.&amp;nbsp; I have tried all combos of settings on all sorts of paper types but think these are the way they should be:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Photo Paper Pro Luster&amp;nbsp;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Print Quality - High (or higher depending on paper type)&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Grayscale Printing&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Color/Intensity set to Manual&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Brightness - Dark&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Intensity - 50 (Dark as it goes)&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Tone - 0&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Contrast - 0&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;These are almost identical to the setting the&amp;nbsp;people who make the film say to set a 'Luster' paper on the Epson 15000 they recommend and pigment ink, not dye.&amp;nbsp; The Epson seems to have a DPI setting,&amp;nbsp;Photo RPM (Max dpi), that I do not see for the Canon.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So with the ink, I saw that the main black cartridge, the&amp;nbsp;PGI-250 is a pigment ink to make text 'crisper', and the color cartridges,&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;CLI-251s, are a dye-based ink.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;So my question are:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Can I specify somewhere to use the PGI-250 cartridge or is that an 'automatic' when printing in Grayscale?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Is there a cartridge with pigment ink that I can replace the CLI-251s with?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;If there is a pigment ink for the CLI-251s will that hurt the printer or jets using the pigment ink?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Anyway thanks so much in advance for any help!&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Stay safe and be well!&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Dave&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2020 03:07:13 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Tek420</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2020-11-21T03:07:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>IP-8720 Not Printing Dark Enough &amp; Pigment vs. Dye Ink</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/Desktop-Inkjet-Printers/IP-8720-Not-Printing-Dark-Enough-amp-Pigment-vs-Dye-Ink/m-p/324915#M1294</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Just got an IP-8720 and it is printing black OK but I need it to print darker.&amp;nbsp; I am printing onto a translucent inkjet film.&amp;nbsp; The part I am printing is used to tightly press against a light-sensitive photoresist file and then exposed to a UV light.&amp;nbsp; The graphic I am printing is needed to block the light from getting through to the photoresist film and is best to use pigment ink but more on that in a sec.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What I found out is I have tried a number of settings to get this to print a dark image but they all seem to end up about the same darkness which is almost a dark, dark gray.&amp;nbsp; I have tried all combos of settings on all sorts of paper types but think these are the way they should be:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Photo Paper Pro Luster&amp;nbsp;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Print Quality - High (or higher depending on paper type)&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Grayscale Printing&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Color/Intensity set to Manual&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Brightness - Dark&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Intensity - 50 (Dark as it goes)&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Tone - 0&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Contrast - 0&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;These are almost identical to the setting the&amp;nbsp;people who make the film say to set a 'Luster' paper on the Epson 15000 they recommend and pigment ink, not dye.&amp;nbsp; The Epson seems to have a DPI setting,&amp;nbsp;Photo RPM (Max dpi), that I do not see for the Canon.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So with the ink, I saw that the main black cartridge, the&amp;nbsp;PGI-250 is a pigment ink to make text 'crisper', and the color cartridges,&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;CLI-251s, are a dye-based ink.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;So my question are:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Can I specify somewhere to use the PGI-250 cartridge or is that an 'automatic' when printing in Grayscale?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Is there a cartridge with pigment ink that I can replace the CLI-251s with?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;If there is a pigment ink for the CLI-251s will that hurt the printer or jets using the pigment ink?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Anyway thanks so much in advance for any help!&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Stay safe and be well!&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Dave&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2020 03:07:13 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Tek420</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-11-21T03:07:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: IP-8720 Not Printing Dark Enough &amp; Pigment vs. Dye Ink</title>
      <link>https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/Desktop-Inkjet-Printers/IP-8720-Not-Printing-Dark-Enough-amp-Pigment-vs-Dye-Ink/m-p/328111#M1295</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Tex420,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When setting the driver to a photo paper, the colors ink tanks are combined to make black.&amp;nbsp; To use the pigment black, the paper must be set to plain paper.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Canon does not make color pigment inks for the PIXMA iP8720.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Another printer, the PIXMA PRO-10, uses pigment ink for all of the colors.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2020 20:45:14 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-12-17T20:45:14Z</dc:date>
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