topic Re: PS on sale in Camera Software

PS on sale

Tintype_18 — Mon, 17 May 2021 21:27:58 GMT

I was at Staples to pick up a new mouse. I went over to the software display. Found Photoshop Elements on sale at 69.99 and PS Premier Elements at 99.99 through May 29th. Thought I would run this by the group. Debating on the 69.99 deal. Your thoughts????

Re: PS on sale

FloridaDrafter — Tue, 18 May 2021 01:20:33 GMT

Same at Best Buy, Amazon, etc. IMO, if you aren't going to go full blown PhotoShop, there are other programs with more features than PS Elements for that price, or cheaper. Give PainshopPro 2021 a look. I've used PSP in the past and it's pretty strong in features that Corel has snapped up from other companies that they have bought out, like ULead's PhotoImpact, which I also own and use along with DPP 4. I use CorelDraw Suite for mostly vector art and some raster, which comes with PhotoPaint, so I am familiar with the way Corel lays out it's menus, which means it's easy for me to pick up any Corel program and go, and that also means I am a little biased to Corel products 😉 Anyway, look at Corels page on PSP and watch some of the videos. They actually address one of the topics you posted on removing stuff in the background, it's pretty slick and has me interested in upgraping my older version of PSP 2018 to PSP 2021. They also sell a Raw editor, AfterShot Pro, that's not half bad (I have that also). IIRC, PSP will open Raw, but it's been a while since I used it.

Just remember, there are other options 🙂

Newton

Re: PS on sale

FloridaDrafter — Tue, 18 May 2021 01:37:34 GMT

I have PSP on another laptop, so I looked and it does open Raw, but it's very basic. Still, you can bring them into PSP.

This is what the version I have looks like. it's pretty straight forward and has a pretty slick interface, but as mentioned, I'm used to Corels layout. Note that you do have layer control, which is left out of a lot of lower priced image editors, so you can mask pretty easily, which I do a lot of when editing certain images.

Generally, DPP is all I need, but I do like to play with stuff sometimes 🙂

**EDIT: I forgot to mention, you can also use plugins, if that's your thang, LOL

Re: PS on sale

Tintype_18 — Tue, 18 May 2021 21:02:10 GMT

There was a box for Paint Shop but can't remember if it was PSP on the title. Need to figure out what I need to do. Deleting crud in teh background would be a plus. Newton, thanks.

Re: PS on sale

FloridaDrafter — Tue, 18 May 2021 21:21:27 GMT

You are welcome. And figuring out just exactly what we might need in an image editor can sometimes be confusing, especially in the beginning. I've experimented with, and used for some time, quite a few because of my background in graphic arts and dealing with various publishers and their printing requirements.

Re: PS on sale

Tintype_18 — Tue, 18 May 2021 22:20:23 GMT

Online only- Corel PSPro @ 69.99; PSPUltimate@99.99. Recommendation? I'm going to spring for the cost of editing software to complement my DPP4. IMHO, it would be beneficial when sending photos to publications.

Re: PS on sale

FloridaDrafter — Tue, 18 May 2021 22:30:48 GMT

@Tintype_18 wrote:
I'll go back and check on the price of Paint.

Download the 30 day trial. Most vendors do that nowdays. I downloaded PSP 2021 Ultimate last week just to see what all they have added, and it went on sale, so I bought it because a few of the features it has impressed me. BTW, since I own an older version, I was able to get it at the "upgrade price". I don't have money to burn, but selling a few of my shots allows me to get stuff like this to play with, plus my wife encourages me to play... She is a bad influence, LOL!

Re: PS on sale

FloridaDrafter — Tue, 18 May 2021 23:18:58 GMT

@Tintype_18 wrote:
Online only- Corel PSPro @ 69.99; PSPUltimate@99.99. Recommendation? I'm going to spring for the cost of editing software to complement my DPP4. IMHO, it would be beneficial when sending photos to publications.

More than likely, regular PSP 2021 should be good for what you are doing, but i still suggest the 30 day trial first. In my past, I used Adobe Illustrator and CorelDraw to do layouts for articles and features, and PS or PhotoImpact or PhotoPaint, depending on what I needed at the time, to help with the images. Each program has it's strenghts, so you play on that and I was fortunate to have access to all, but that was my job.

I bought Ultimate because it comes with other very interesting programs, like Aftershot, which they have really improved and includes camera profiles for my 5D mark IV and the R6. Also AI HDR Studio. I sometimes shoot HDR, which DPP 4 will handle, but this one adds a few more options. Also, it includes Photo Mirage which will animate stills (kind of like morphing).

But those are just things to play with, for me anyway. DPP is my editing program and I use PhotoImpact to frame and crop. If I need prints, they are created in DPP. I shoot wildlife, mostly birds, so providing my original shots are well exposed, DPP is all I need. BTW, I am retired, so photography and graphic arts aren't my source of income anymore. I just sell a few prints to buy toys 😉

Newton

Re: PS on sale

Tintype_18 — Wed, 19 May 2021 13:02:59 GMT

Newton, I also do wildlife and birds. I'm fortunate enough to get some great bird shots from my kitchen window. Want upgrade

editing for quality photos to publications.

Re: PS on sale

Tintype_18 — Sat, 22 May 2021 12:33:33 GMT

I like to review posts and replies to lock it in my memory. They say memory is the second thing to go; can't remember the first.

Newton, do you have Photoshop Ultimate plus Lightroom? FWIW, the sale on Elements or Premier goes off this coming Saturday. I'm cheap.

Re: PS on sale

Tintype_18 — Sat, 22 May 2021 20:06:49 GMT

I emailed my son to see what camera his daughter had, thinking if she had a Canon, she might want DPP4 for editing. He has Photoshop and wished he got the Ultimate for the additional capabilities. Re: Lightroom, he says it's more complicated, needing to go to Youtube as he doesn't us it all the time to take a photo and run with it. Your thoughts?

Re: PS on sale

FloridaDrafter — Sat, 22 May 2021 23:31:58 GMT

@Tintype_18 wrote:
I like to review posts and replies to lock it in my memory. They say memory is the second thing to go; can't remember the first.
Newton, do you have Photoshop Ultimate plus Lightroom? FWIW, the sale on Elements or Premier goes off this coming Saturday. I'm cheap.

No, I use DPP 4 for Raw editing and Corel PhotoImpact for framing and cropping. Although I can crop/frame in DPP, I just prefer to "convert & save" the entire frame in DPP then use PI where I have more control of the resulting tif image. I use Corel PaintShop Pro Ultimate just to play with because it has some great features and is fun to use.

Fortunately, DPP is all I need for a finished product when I do decide to sale a print. My technique is 90% pre shot prep (exposure, proper background & b/g lighting, setting, my position, etc.) and 10% post editing. So, by the time my Raw files hit my computer, I just need to add/subtract a bit of saturation and use unsharp mask to adjust out some of Canons anti-aliasing (AA) filter. Depending on the lens, I sometimes use the lens optimizer, and sometimes use DPP's noise reduction when I have to raise ISO for various reasons.

I would say that there are a lot of "old timers" on this forum that use the same 90/10, but choose to use PhotoShop or Lightroom, and nothin' wrong with that at all, just not my path. Our advantage is coming from film where you just get a few opportunities to get "that" shot, so we worked on technique and it carried over into digital. I'm not criticizing others, just pointing out where some of us came from, but you don't have to be from that era to know or learn propper technique.

Re: PS on sale

jrhoffman75 — Sun, 23 May 2021 10:04:46 GMT

@Tintype_18 wrote:
I like to review posts and replies to lock it in my memory. They say memory is the second thing to go; can't remember the first.
Newton, do you have Photoshop Ultimate plus Lightroom? FWIW, the sale on Elements or Premier goes off this coming Saturday. I'm cheap.

The plethora of products with similar names can get confusing.

If Ultimate is the tag then I think your son was refering to Paintshop, not Photoshop.

Lightroom is an industry standard, but it is a subscription based product. The subscription includes Lighytroom and Photoshop for $10/month.

If you are just starting out in post-processing (i.e. switching from in-camera baked-in JPEGs to shooting RAW and tweaking the results) DPP is more than adequate, and its free.

Re: PS on sale

Tintype_18 — Tue, 25 May 2021 12:50:12 GMT

John, got the titles mixed. Here is the one I was looking at on sale. One can purchase it and download directly from the Staples website.

[Mod Note: Removed link per FORUM GUIDELINES (No linking to third party sites that sell things)]

Re: PS on sale

Tintype_18 — Mon, 24 May 2021 18:35:30 GMT

I bought the Adobe Photoshop Elements 2021 today @69.99. I looked at the Premier but it had a bunch of things for videos which don't interest me.

Re: PS on sale

FloridaDrafter — Mon, 24 May 2021 20:04:43 GMT

@Tintype_18 wrote:
I bought the Adobe Photoshop Elements 2021 today @69.99. I looked at the Premier but it had a bunch of things for videos which don't interest me.

Great. That should get you started.

Re: PS on sale

Tintype_18 — Mon, 24 May 2021 22:03:05 GMT

I had mentioned earier that I joined a local photography club. Seems there are a number of members who are either active or retired from photography, graphics, etc. I have a sackful of photos in RAW that I can use for practice. I'll see what I can do and post some on this forum.

Re: PS on sale

Tintype_18 — Tue, 25 May 2021 12:35:13 GMT

I received an email alert for a reply to this thread but get a 404 error code. Also, isn't in the posts here.