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How to enlarge second screen/Digital Photo Professional Ver 4

Thiru — Wed, 18 Sep 2024 09:22:27 GMT

Hi,
I am unable to change the size of the second screen and would like to find out how to change the second screen size. On my system(Windows 10) second screen size is about 3inchesx3inches. I can move it around. But cannot change the size. Is it a bug? or it is supposed to be of that size? If we cannot change the size what is the use of it?
https://cam.start.canon/en/S002/manual/html/UG-02_ImageView_0110.html

Thanks
Thiru

Re: How to enlarge second screen/Digital Photo Professional Ver 4

stevet1 — Wed, 18 Sep 2024 12:20:39 GMT

Thiru,

I am not an expert in DPP4, but if you bring up an image and then click on Edit Image, down in the bottom left hand corner, there are options to display the image at various sizes.

Steve Thomas

Re: How to enlarge second screen/Digital Photo Professional Ver 4

jrhoffman75 — Wed, 18 Sep 2024 13:00:09 GMT

Are you saying you followed the instructions in the section of the manual you posted and it didn’t work?

Re: How to enlarge second screen/Digital Photo Professional Ver 4

Thiru — Wed, 18 Sep 2024 15:20:19 GMT

Yes John. I tried to follow the instructions given on the link and it does not work. It says "You can change the size of second windows as desired". I can magnify(zoom) the image within the window. Cannot enlarge the window. According to the documentation what I am referring to is "Window". But in the actual DPP interface it is referred as "screen". When I right click on the images - top option I get is "Show second screen". When I select "Show second screen" I get a small window about 3x3inch. If I double click on any image I get a separate window that I can resize. May be "Show second screen" option is with different intention. Hope I have explained it well.

Thanks

Thiru

Re: How to enlarge second screen/Digital Photo Professional Ver 4

Thiru — Wed, 18 Sep 2024 15:28:53 GMT

Thanks Steve. I am very new to DPP. Yes image can be displayed at various sizes. Please refer my reply to John. What I am trying to find is why I cannot change the size of " second screen" (i.e what referred to as in the actual interface) or "second window" (it is referred as Window in the documentation).

Thiru

Re: How to enlarge second screen/Digital Photo Professional Ver 4

stevet1 — Wed, 18 Sep 2024 17:18:50 GMT

Thiru,

It's kind of like a television set's PIP or Picture-in-Picture.

You do have the option of displaying two pictures side by side - one the photo as shot, and the other the edited image. Right offhand, I don't remember the steps for doing that.

Steve Thomas

Re: How to enlarge second screen/Digital Photo Professional Ver 4

jrhoffman75 — Wed, 18 Sep 2024 17:37:53 GMT

I’m traveling, so I can’t try this, but maybe treat it like a regular Windows screen and right click and drag on the frame of the window.

Re: How to enlarge second screen/Digital Photo Professional Ver 4

p4pictures — Wed, 18 Sep 2024 18:15:02 GMT

I'm using a Mac with the latest DPP, and I see your issue. If I right click on an image I can show the second screen. I can even drag that window to my second physical computer screen. I can also change the zoom of the image in the second screen. However like you I cannot drag the handles at the edge of the "second screen" to resize it.

What I think Canon is offering with the second screen function is window that can be used to show either the overall effect of a change to the image in the "first screen" especially when zoomed in. Or to show a magnified section of the main image which could be useful when checking sharpening. However I agree that it's not overly helpful not being able to change the size and shape of the "second screen".

Re: How to enlarge second screen/Digital Photo Professional Ver 4

Thiru — Wed, 18 Sep 2024 18:40:21 GMT

Thanks Brian.

"What I think Canon is offering with the second screen function is window that can be used to show either the overall effect of a change to the image in the "first screen" especially when zoomed in. Or to show a magnified section of the main image which could be useful when checking sharpening. "

That is the conclusion I came to as well.

Thiru

Re: How to enlarge second screen/Digital Photo Professional Ver 4

Thiru — Sun, 22 Sep 2024 09:51:13 GMT

Thank you Steve. Sorry for the late response. I am using the options you described in your first message.

Re: How to enlarge second screen/Digital Photo Professional Ver 4

Waddizzle — Sun, 22 Sep 2024 12:41:10 GMT

My takeaway from reading the instructions at your link is that they are telling you how to change the size of the image. Clink on the image to view it at 100%, one pixel in the image will be displayed as one pixel on your display. Don’t try to drag the corners or edges of the window.

Note, this means a 4K dispaly will show more of the image than a Full HD display.

Re: How to enlarge second screen/Digital Photo Professional Ver 4

jrhoffman75 — Wed, 25 Sep 2024 23:59:21 GMT

@Thiru wrote:

Hi,
I am unable to change the size of the second screen and would like to find out how to change the second screen size. On my system(Windows 10) second screen size is about 3inchesx3inches. I can move it around. But cannot change the size. Is it a bug? or it is supposed to be of that size? If we cannot change the size what is the use of it?
https://cam.start.canon/en/S002/manual/html/UG-02_ImageView_0110.html

Thanks
Thiru

I was travelling when this first was posted, so I didn't have access to my computer to test.

Now I am home. For W10, if you use left-click on the mouse and grab a corner you can enlarge the frame. Can also left-click and grab an edge.

Works the same way with 4.18 and macOS 15 using a mouse. I am not real proficient with touch pad, but with the right finger movements should work as well.

Re: How to enlarge second screen/Digital Photo Professional Ver 4

Waddizzle — Thu, 26 Sep 2024 00:01:20 GMT

@jrhoffman75 wrote:

@Thiru wrote:

Hi,
I am unable to change the size of the second screen and would like to find out how to change the second screen size. On my system(Windows 10) second screen size is about 3inchesx3inches. I can move it around. But cannot change the size. Is it a bug? or it is supposed to be of that size? If we cannot change the size what is the use of it?
https://cam.start.canon/en/S002/manual/html/UG-02_ImageView_0110.html

Thanks
Thiru

I was travelling when this first was posted, so I didn't have access to my computer to test.

Now I am home. For W10, if you use left-click on the mouse and grab a corner you can enlarge the frame. Can also left-click and grab an edge.

Works the same way with 4.18 and macOS 15 using a mouse. I am not real proficient with touch pad, but with the right finger movements should work as well.

What screen resolution are you using with Windows? Canon apps seem to prefer Full HD resolution, especially the installers.

Re: How to enlarge second screen/Digital Photo Professional Ver 4

jrhoffman75 — Thu, 26 Sep 2024 00:04:46 GMT

1920x1200 W10 PC

Re: How to enlarge second screen/Digital Photo Professional Ver 4

jrhoffman75 — Thu, 26 Sep 2024 10:35:13 GMT

I can change the size of the second screen on a MacBook Air w/Sequoia and an iMac w/Sonoma by left-click dragging the corner or edges of the second screen.

Re: How to enlarge second screen/Digital Photo Professional Ver 4

Thiru — Thu, 26 Sep 2024 11:56:04 GMT

Thank you John.

So it is bug in the windows version.

Re: How to enlarge second screen/Digital Photo Professional Ver 4

shadowsports — Thu, 26 Sep 2024 12:15:17 GMT

I'm on windows 11. I can resize the second image using left click, but the adjustment capability is limited. I can adjust from thumbnail to approx 4x4 inches on my laptop. Screen is only 2k on this one. v4.19.10

Re: How to enlarge second screen/Digital Photo Professional Ver 4

jrhoffman75 — Thu, 26 Sep 2024 12:16:46 GMT

@Thiru wrote:

Thank you John.

So it is bug in the windows version.

No. It works in W10 for me. What are your computer specs. Mine is W10 with 1920x1200 display.

Re: How to enlarge second screen/Digital Photo Professional Ver 4

jrhoffman75 — Thu, 26 Sep 2024 12:56:33 GMT

@shadowsports wrote:

I'm on windows 11. I can resize the second image using left click, but the adjustment capability is limited. I can adjust from thumbnail to approx 4x4 inches on my laptop. Screen is only 2k on this one. v4.19.10

Same size range for me on PC and MacBook. Much larger would make much sense; just use the full size window. It is a good aid to examine a part of the image.

Re: How to enlarge second screen/Digital Photo Professional Ver 4

Thiru — Thu, 26 Sep 2024 13:22:10 GMT

System - Mine is also W10

Display DellU2720Q 3840x2160

Tx John