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Do I need a new tripod head for a heavier lens?

magilla — Fri, 26 Jun 2026 14:01:19 GMT

Hello all,

First time poster here, so if I screw something up please be patient.

I've got an R50, and I am looking to purchase a 200-800 f6.3 lens. I've been using a 100-400 f5.6 up to now, often with a 1.4x converter. I mostly hand-hold while shooting.

I have a Manfrotto 190 tripod with a 128RC head that has a spotting scope living on it, but that sometimes gets swapped out for my camera. I've done a lot of birding on the shore in some pretty windy conditions so the weight helps keep things safe and (sorta mostly) stable.

Will I need to replace the tripod head if I'm going to mount the 200-800 lens? I see the lens plate on the 128RC is much smaller than the mount on the lens.

I'd be willing to spend a few hundred dollars on a new head, if I was convinced it was really needed. (Who was it who said a cheap tripod is the most expensive piece of optical gear you can buy?)

Thanks

Chris

Re: Do I need a new tripod head?

ebiggs1 — Thu, 25 Jun 2026 15:09:58 GMT

I would say the most support you can give it or get is what you want. This is my rig......................

That's a Sigma 150-600mm f/5-6.3 DG OS HSM Sports lens and a 1 Series camera. It is a pretty heavy package.

Re: Do I need a new tripod head?

Waddizzle — Thu, 25 Jun 2026 16:49:47 GMT

Do you own the big lens, yet? Because I would say try it out and see. It’s a safe bet that the micro head will need to be upgrade. Is this the one?

Fluid video heads tend to have too much dampening for fast action, wildlife photography.

Depending upon how much I might be on the moon, I use a monopod with tilt head or a tripod with a high quality ball head. In either case, the heads use Arca-Swiss plates

if you go for a monopod, go for one at least as tall as you are.

Re: Do I need a new tripod head?

shadowsports — Thu, 25 Jun 2026 17:56:37 GMT

Greetings,

I shot with my RF200-800 this weekend in the wind and from a boat. I wished I had my tripod with me. Also Manfrotto (carbon)

Your tripod is likely fine. Like my colleague suggested, you can try it with the 128RC

That's a lot of plastic, but you can try it. The tripod plate will fasten to the foot on your lens 1/4-20.

I never leave my rig out of arms reach. Dogs, wind, younger children etc. can make a mishap and ruin your day. I have a mid tier head, but wouldn't hesitate to buy something more heavy duty. Especially if I spent a lot of time shooting birds. Here's what I got last weekend using a pillow for stabilization. 🫣 Your R50 will do great with the 200-800. It's a fantastic lens. You will absolutely need a good strong tripod in order to keep it steady because when you're zoomed at 800mm you'll want to be as steady as possible. This lens on your camera (at 800mm) will have an equivalent field of view of 1260mm so fully zoomed it's going to be like looking through a telescope. The 128RC head is rated for up to 13 lbs, but conservatively you want to stay under 10. Shouldn't be a problem body and lens, but again, you'll have to evaluate If it feels stable enough for you.

Have fun and good luck!

Re: Do I need a new tripod head?

SignifDigits — Fri, 26 Jun 2026 01:44:17 GMT

Manfrotto specs it as 13.2 Pound weight capacity. Lens is 4.5 and camera adds about another pound. Many sources say you're good to 8 to 9 pounds for the fluid head to work, but it sounds like you'll be well under that weight. Some folks seem to complain about some shake at it seems the base plate might get loose, but tightening it should fix that. The Manfrotto page is at https://www.manfrotto.com/global-en/128rc-micro-fluid-video-head-aluminium-128rc/.

It's probably ok, but perhaps just ok as a fluid head is really more for video than photography. I would agree with Waddiizzle with his "try it out and see" recommendation. It doesn't appear that it will be unsafe. The RC2 plate on the lens foot will help balance it out. I don't know how many tripod shots you will wind up making with the lens in your situation, so trying it out is your best bet to see if it works for you or not and whether you really need a new head.

Re: Do I need a new tripod head for a heavier lens?

ebiggs1 — Fri, 26 Jun 2026 16:38:52 GMT

"Fluid video heads tend to have too much dampening for fast action, wildlife photography."

I never found that to be true. But I only use my rig for wildlife that is fairly stationary in one spot or location so movement of the fluid head isn't an issue at all. For moveable mobil wildlife I still use hand held. Any tripod or monopod is a problem for fast moving wildlife.

Even at my advanced age, I still have no problem hand holding my 1DX and Sigma 150-600mm f/5-6.3 DG DN OS Sports Lens.

Yes, I am sure that is a person to person and individual ability to thing. It is just something I have always done and it continues to this day.

Re: Do I need a new tripod head for a heavier lens?

SignifDigits — Fri, 26 Jun 2026 17:57:36 GMT

I could have used my removable leg/monopod when I was holding my 200-800mm on a subject bird for maybe 10 or so minutes straight once hoping it could be enough out of cover for a shot. My arms got pretty tired then - and I was even using the elbow into the belly rest. I wouldn't have had any use for the tripod as I was too busy moving around. Maybe next time I will put the leg/monopod my pocket, though I don't see me taking the time to install and uninstall it. Maybe someone will invent a pocket monopod with a quick-release someday (if they haven't already) for situations like that.

Re: Do I need a new tripod head for a heavier lens?

Jkarl — Fri, 26 Jun 2026 18:49:36 GMT

I purchased a Leofoto CF-06 lens foot for the Canon 200-800 it works well with both my tripod and monopod.

It is a Arca mount.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1842441-REG/leofoto_cf_06_replacement_lens_foot.html

Re: Do I need a new tripod head for a heavier lens?

SignifDigits — Fri, 26 Jun 2026 19:00:16 GMT

Thanks for that info Jkarl - good to know. Hope it works well for you.

Re: Do I need a new tripod head for a heavier lens?

Waddizzle — Sun, 28 Jun 2026 14:29:06 GMT

“ I never found that to be true. But I only use my rig for wildlife that is fairly stationary in one spot or location so movement of the fluid head isn't an issue at all. For moveable mobil wildlife I still use hand held. Any tripod or monopod is a problem for fast moving wildlife. “

Most video heads lack the sufficient range of movement to angle upwards to a bird in flight,

I don’t typically shoot handheld because I can’t do it. I use support for relief from fatigue. Wildlife photography reminds me of fishing. Know your prey. Find a good spot and wait for them to come to you;

I will use a tripod so I can accurately focus on a bird on a branch between and behind other branches and leaves. Or birds at a feeder or bird bath. I get dialed in and am good.

I use a tripod because I have a second camera that I use to shoot BIF handheld.

Re: Do I need a new tripod head for a heavier lens?

ebiggs1 — Mon, 29 Jun 2026 14:29:11 GMT

"I don’t typically shoot handheld because I can’t do it."

You have to do as what you have to do. All of us are different and have different abilities. It is how I started shooting and have kept it up to this day even at my advanced age.

"Find a good spot and wait for them to come to you;"

Unfortunately the success rate with that method is pretty low (unless you are at the zoo). For fishing you need bait. I suppose you could use some sort of bait but check game laws as baiting is pretty much illegal. I have sat in a deer stand for days before in fantastic ares and not seen a deer.

Re: Do I need a new tripod head for a heavier lens?

JeffXB — Tue, 30 Jun 2026 10:26:52 GMT

As others have suggested, try using what you have. You might experience balancing issues with that fluid head though as the 200-800mm is not an internally zooming lens. Just something to be aware of.

If you do decide to go for a new head, and you mostly shoot stills and not video, then you might want to consider a gimbal head. Personally I use the Sirui PH-10 with an assortment of lenses, including the 200-800mm. I find it works well whether on a tripod or 3 legged monopod like the iFootage Cobra 3 (which I also use in addition to a tripod) or the one made by Benro; they work good, just don’t walk away from it on a windy day.

If you go the gimbal route, then when you set it up you need to extend the 200-800 to 500mm to get it balanced. Though not super necessary for still photos, more so for video, I also suggest you level the gimbal head as well. Leave it there and you can easily zoom in / out on your target.

Re: Do I need a new tripod head for a heavier lens?

Waddizzle — Wed, 01 Jul 2026 07:36:08 GMT

“ Unfortunately the success rate with that method is pretty low (unless you are at the zoo). For fishing you need bait. I suppose you could use some sort of bait but check game laws as baiting is pretty much illegal. I have sat in a deer stand for days before in fantastic ares and not seen a deer. “

You make far too many false assumptions. I am not always looking to capture birds. I wait for the small critters with four legs to come out of hiding.

Re: Do I need a new tripod head for a heavier lens?

shadowsports — Wed, 01 Jul 2026 10:23:33 GMT

I can shoot handheld with my 70-200, and 100-500 without issue. The RF 200-800 fully zoomed is just too long (for me) to shoot handheld sustained. It's a good 8 in longer when zoomed. Last weekend I shot with it using a pillow for steadiness. On my trip to the preserve, I used one of my tripods and had a time of it hiking nearly 2 miles, stopping every 200 steps to survey the shoreline. 🫩

After this, I've decided I might grab a monopod, or do as @Waddizzle does and plant myself somewhere and wait for the birds to come to me. Nice camping chair with an armrest that has a drink slot for a coffee or cocktail. Like I need another piece of gear for my photography habit 😂.

@ebiggs1, I find that a stationary location works well. Hunters sit in blinds and wait for birds, etc to come with a very high rate of success. Find yourself a good vantage point and you're golden. Planting yourself somewhere quiet works great in my experience. Way more relaxing too.

I do have two 120mm lens plates. These are no frills plates that have adjustable stop pins front and rear so you don't come off your arca mount. They were inexpensive and work perfectly. I know Leofoto and Wimberly are most popular. The gimbal swivel head that Wimberly makes for a tri/monopod is premier. I just don't shoot wildlife enough to need one.

My shoot in Pescadero was disappointing. Not only was it hot but I arrived at 3:00. Had to attend a birthday party first so we were too late for breakfast and too early for dinner. I saw three ducks 🦆 no Egrets, no Herons and no birds of prey. Seagulls don't count. Wife gave up a mile in. I kept going. I realized my mistake about 15 minutes after arriving. 🫣

That and going on a Sunday (late afternoon) was not a good idea. All three of the preserve and beach lots were packed and you can't park on the highway.

So I'm going to go back early in the morning later this week. Should have better luck on a weekday.

Re: Do I need a new tripod head for a heavier lens?

ebiggs1 — Wed, 01 Jul 2026 19:29:38 GMT

"You make far too many false assumptions. I am not always looking to capture birds. I wait for the small critters with four legs to come out of hiding."

You are probably correct but I don't shoot much in my front yard.

Re: Do I need a new tripod head for a heavier lens?

Waddizzle — Thu, 02 Jul 2026 09:27:24 GMT

“ After this, I've decided I might grab a monopod, or do as @Waddizzle does and plant myself somewhere and wait for the birds to come to me. Nice camping chair with an armrest that has a drink slot for a coffee or cocktail. Like I need another piece of gear for my photography habit 😂.

I find that a stationary location works well. Hunters sit in blinds and wait for birds, etc to come with a very high rate of success. Find yourself a good vantage point and you're golden. Planting yourself somewhere quiet works great in my experience. Way more relaxing too.“

This is the way.

When it comes to a monopod, you want one at least as tall as you, makes angling upwards so much easier. I use an alloy monopod by Benro, 70+ inches. I decided to forego carbon fiber for a monopod because the weight savings were not worth it.

Second get a high quality tilt head. I highly recommend the Kirk tilt head MPA-2. It has amazing friction control. The mounting plan can rotate 90 degrees.

I just checked the price, see that it’s jumped 50% since COVID. At that price, it might be painful, but I guarantee you will be amazed and pleased. Cheaper ones are not in the same league,

Re: Do I need a new tripod head for a heavier lens?

Waddizzle — Thu, 02 Jul 2026 09:46:58 GMT

“ On my trip to the preserve, I used one of my tripods and had a time of it hiking nearly 2 miles, stopping every 200 steps to survey the shoreline. 🫩 “

I prefer Benro / Induro tripods for one reason, the tripod carrying case. It is roomy enough to leave ball head installed,

I don’t wear backpacks, anymore. So, I can wear the tripod case on my back like a quiver of arrows. All it takes is bungee cord to connect the handles. I use two, criss crossed across my chest. Not something I do often these days, though. Not since COVID. They used large parks with large parking lots as drive thru test centers. Testing lasted nearly two years. The paring lots and parks stayed closed for another year,

Re: Do I need a new tripod head for a heavier lens?

shadowsports — Thu, 02 Jul 2026 20:55:28 GMT

@Waddizzle Agree. I just purchased a JJC case for the RF200-800. I'll use it cross body and keep a shorter lens on the body for video. I could have carried my tripod in its case (like you) but setup takes a few minutes and I wanted to "ready" quicker. Both of my tripods have cases that accommodate the head mounted. This probably means I don't need another piece of gear

But... I'm still looking at monopods. I'll check out Benro. I'm also looking at Robus. B&H has a few with and without a 3 foot stabilizing base. The base has a tilt head giving you some flexibility. Not as nice as a Kirk for sure. Wow, now that's a nice mono head.

When I revisit Pescadero, I'm going to walk in and find a place to sit. I'll go early. This will let me get parking and beat the heat. The images I caught at the Delta 2 weeks ago were early in the morning and dinner time. I sat and waited and the birds came to me. It was very relaxing.

I have a nice lite portable chair too, so I'm going to rig myself out and see how it feels. What made it hard last week was trying to hike with the tripod open. Some portions of the trail were pretty narrow while hiking down the shoreline sloughs. Even with the legs folded in, it was challenging. I had a 24-70 in a sling pack on my back. Finding a good spot and sitting would have been a much better approach in my case. There's always next time. 🙂

Re: Do I need a new tripod head for a heavier lens?

Waddizzle — Thu, 02 Jul 2026 22:09:21 GMT

“ But... I'm still looking at monopods. I'll check out Benro. I'm also looking at Robus. B&H has a few with and without a 3 foot stabilizing base. The base has a tilt head giving you some flexibility. Not as nice as a Kirk for sure. Wow, now that's a nice mono head. “

I like the Robus brand.. It seemed like it came from out of nowhere. I suspect that is a house brand, but an offfshoot from Benro / Induro. Robus sells legs with only a quick release flat plate. I have different plates with different heads. I can go from a blall head to geared head, to my landscape right now with a leveling base. It only takes a few seconds.’

This the monopod still being sold that I use with the Kirk head. Why so tall? For one, I am tall. Mostly, a monopod is stronger when the leg sections are not fully extended.

Re: Do I need a new tripod head for a heavier lens?

TomRamsey — Sun, 05 Jul 2026 19:01:11 GMT

Another lens plate that will work is the ishoot , it fits the 200-800 perfectly. I don't usde a tripod ofte when shooting wildlife, but I did buy an Artcise gimbal for this lens and it works very well. I have a very sturdy Artcise CF tripod which I bought a couple years ago, so I stuck with them on the gimbal, even though at the time I had to buy it on ebay. One thing on any support equipment, I think you should always choose equipment that lists a much higher weight capacity than your camera and lens.

As I said, I seldom use a tripod for wildlife, I think it is difficult to follow moving birds or mammal with a tripod. But I have the equipment just in case a situation arises. And I feel people should use what they are comfortable with, any image from tripod use should be pretty good.

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