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Re: I Want Sharp Image (New Camera or Macro Lens)


diverhank wrote:

 

...2. focus was off - the focus was on the metal behind the diamonds...

 


Diamonds? Come on, dude, look at the setting. When the glue dries out, the zirconia will drop out one by one, like teeth out of an old man's head. 

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Re: I Want Sharp Image (New Camera or Macro Lens)

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"... she may benefit more with a better lens."

 

Funny how others are told how well they can do with kit lenses.  Yet for themselves they don't tend to use them?  Just saying not aimed towards anybody.

 

"... the focus was on the metal behind the diamonds and not on the diamonds..."

 

This could easily be made a whole lot better with focus stacking in PS.  Shallow DOF will always be a problem no matter "L" or not.

 

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Re: I Want Sharp Image (New Camera or Macro Lens)


diverhank wrote:

jrhoffman75 wrote:

Just so we don't loose sight of the OP's issue, here is the question and examples from the other post she made.

 

http://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EOS-Rebel/Canon-750D-Noise-Product-Photography/m-p/207342#U207342

 

 


Thanks for posting this...she does a better job than I had envisioned but still the fundamental problems are still there...1. lighting is not that great, 2. focus was off - the focus was on the metal behind the diamonds and not on the diamonds and 3. f/22 is not as sharp due to diffraction.

 

Perhaps with improved techniques, she may benefit more with a better lens.


But, fix the technique before buying a lens.

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ebiggs1 wrote:

"... she may benefit more with a better lens."

 

Funny how others are told how well they can do with kit lenses.  Yet for themselves they don't tend to use them?  Just saying not aimed towards anybody.

  


There are many people here that like the EF 24-105 f/4L IS kit lens. I personally don't think it's that great.

 

I also carry and use the EF-S 18-135 IS STM and EF-S 55-250 IS STM kit lenses that came with my EOS 7D Mk II along with the EF 100-400 L IS II for that camera. 

 

This is in spite of owning 'better' constant aperture f/2.8 lenses that cover those focal lengths. For me the more compact size, lighter weight, and outstanding image quality of the STM lenses, outweighs any benefit of an f/2.8 lens. The 7D Mk II has such good high ISO performance, I don't worry about having to bump up my ISO a little to compensate for the variable aperture. But, then again, I'm out actually out in the field taking photos, not just sitting at my computer or occasionally going out on my porch to take photos. 

 

 

 

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Thanx so much for the info. I was worried you just read MTF charts all day and collected them like stamps.  

 

"I'm out actually out in the field taking photos, ...

 

Oh, OK, I thought it was your wife that took all the photos.  Nice to see you go along with her.

 

"...not just sitting at my computer or occasionally going out on my porch to take photos."

 

Well you know there are those stairs I have to contend with.  If it weren't only for them I could.

 

" For me the more compact size, lighter weight..."

 

Do you have a disability that doesn't allow you to carry heavy lenses?  There are aids you can get that will make it more easy for you.  You might try a Black Rapid Sport strap for instance.

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Re: I Want Sharp Image (New Camera or Macro Lens)


ebiggs1 wrote:

Thanx so much for the info. I was worried you just read MTF charts all day and collected them like stamps.  

 

"I'm out actually out in the field taking photos, ...

 

Oh, OK, I thought it was your wife that took all the photos.  Nice to see you go along with her.

 

"...not just sitting at my computer or occasionally going out on my porch to take photos."

 

Well you know there are those stairs I have to contend with.  If it weren't only for them I could.

 

" For me the more compact size, lighter weight..."

 

Do you have a disability that doesn't allow you to carry heavy lenses?  There are aids you can get that will make it more easy for you.  You might try a Black Rapid Sport strap for instance.


You thought my wife's name was Tom V Martin? Since that's the Copyright Watermark on my photos I post, how progressive of you.

 

No disability. Though if I did you'd look like a bigger jerk than you already do. Wouldn't you? 

 

Sorry, I have first hand knowledge of a coworker having his camera fall to the ground while using a Black Rapid Strap. So why would I pay twice as much for a strap that risks damage to my gear? No thanks I'll stick with my OPTech USA straps.

 

 

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Re: I Want Sharp Image (New Camera or Macro Lens)

I think we've gone beyond helping the OP.

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Re: I Want Sharp Image (New Camera or Macro Lens)

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jrhoffman75 wrote:

I think we've gone beyond helping the OP.


I think you're right. I generally try to avoid replying to posts that reveal a lack of fundamental understanding of the basics. Why? Because nearly all of it is easily grasped by taking an interest in photography and doing some self-study, be it books, the manual itself, or classes. But in this thread I transgressed and offered unsolicited advice to a guy who's trying to take some photos of a fake diamond ring and can't seem to control his focus point and lighting. 

 

I mean, here I am, a rank amateur with a measly T6, yet I have had zero problems learning how to shoot in varying light conditions, adjustng the various camera settings to obtain the results I'm after, manipulating DOF to my purpose, and staying on a path that helps me to learn. The formula is simple: read, practice, repeat.

 

So I remain confounded by how many people are struggling to acquire focus, seem to have no understanding of the role of aperature, shutter speed, and ISO, blame the camera and manufacturer when they drop their lens, post queries that are incomplete and nonsensical, complain about their camera lacking functions that a bit of reasearch would have revealed.

 

In this particular case, the photographer was unable to obtain clear photos so he is asking whether he should buy a 5D. This is rather like a new driver who is still struggling to understand the rules of the road asking whether a new Corvette would solve his problems.

 

End of rant.  

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Re: I Want Sharp Image (New Camera or Macro Lens)

"You thought my wife's name was Tom V Martin?"

 

Actually I didn't know your name or hers until now but copyright marks don't mean much.  Anybody can put one on.  Right?

 

Glad to hear you are able bodied Tom.  You may still want to give the Black Rapid a try.  Possibly your coworker bud screwed up. They are not that hard to figure out or to use.  Any person of average intelligence can do it.  Maybe a local camera store will allow you to try one before you buy.

 

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Re: I Want Sharp Image (New Camera or Macro Lens)


ebiggs1 wrote:

 

Actually I didn't know your name or hers until now but copyright marks don't mean much.  Anybody can put one on.  Right?

 


Not legally.

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