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Re: Canon 1300D lots of noise (even with low ISO)

Hi guys,

 

after lots of pictures shooting, I'm back on the forum.
I managed to take better pictures than before but I still have that problem sometimes like you can see on that picture :

 

Horse (6).jpg

 

As you can see better here by zooming a bit :

 

Horse (6) 2.jpg

 

And this is not pixel peeping, it's just terrible quality picture.

The sun was there, so my settings were almost perfect to get the good picture :

-1/500s shutter speed and I wasn't shaking so we can't say it's because I moved

-f 7.1 aperture so it's close to the best aperture I can get to not have any diffraction or anything like that

-ISO 100 which is the lowest here

 

HELP! Smiley Tongue

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Re: Canon 1300D lots of noise (even with low ISO)

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Looks pretty good to me. What lens and focal length?

 

Is the sharpness the issue?

 

The camera might have focused on the water between the camera and the subject, though it is hard to tell. If you have the camera determine the focus points, it focuses at the point that contains something closest to the camera, so it might have focused on some of the points at the bottom of the screen where the water is closer to you.

 

If you have DPP, you might be able to see the points the camera used to set focus.

 

ETA:

And *please* tell us exactly what you think is wrong with the picture. Be detailed. For awhilie I thought it might be the specular highlight on the helmet.

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Re: Canon 1300D lots of noise (even with low ISO)

Looks pretty good to me, too.  Don't forget, you are looking at digitally sampled images, not analog images.

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Re: Canon 1300D lots of noise (even with low ISO)

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Robin4321 wrote:

Hi guys,

 

after lots of pictures shooting, I'm back on the forum.
I managed to take better pictures than before but I still have that problem sometimes like you can see on that picture :

 

As you can see better here by zooming a bit :

 

Horse (6) 2.jpg

 

And this is not pixel peeping, it's just terrible quality picture.

The sun was there, so my settings were almost perfect to get the good picture :

-1/500s shutter speed and I wasn't shaking so we can't say it's because I moved

-f 7.1 aperture so it's close to the best aperture I can get to not have any diffraction or anything like that

-ISO 100 which is the lowest here

 

HELP! Smiley Tongue


Looks fine to me, everything that is lit, has good detail. Girls hair, hair on horses butt where the sun is on it, the horses mane where the sun us on it on it like near the ears.

 

The girls face is in the shadows and lacks contrast and details because if it. The side of the horse is in the shadows and lacks details for the same reason.

 

So the well lit areas show it isn't an issue with the camera or the lens. As a photographer you need to see the light.

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Re: Canon 1300D lots of noise (even with low ISO)

Hi everyone!

 

I'm back after a couple of months of not taking lots of pictures lately.
I took a few last week and I'm still a bit frustrated about the quality. I used a tripod this time and it doesn't help much like you can see on that spider picture that is blur even if I'm 100% sure it was focused on it when I took the picture:

IMG_1621_compressed.jpg

Since everyone here seems to think the pictures are fine for the camera I've got, I'm seriously thinking of getting a new gear.

If I want more sharpness, should I consider changing the camera and the lenses or only the lenses?

 

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Re: Canon 1300D lots of noise (even with low ISO)

"If I want more sharpness, should I consider changing the camera and the lenses or only the lenses?"

 

The camera doesn't take the picture, the lens does.  The camera simply converts and stores the image the lens saw.

However, far be from me to say not to upgrade your camera but you will likely get a bigger bang from better lenses.  I have forgotten what lenses you have but as I recall you have a T6?  It is a pretty basic camera so if there are features you want and don't have, look for an upgrade.  Perhaps an 80D or 70D ? 

 

I am a big fan of the EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM Lens.  The new ef 50mm f1.8 prime is a real nice lens and very sharp. Of course there is always the "L" line up.  You really can't go wrong with any of them.

 

There are a few third party lenses I really like and can recommend from personal use and ownership.  Let me know if you would like to know the ones I like best.

A lot of Canon stuff. Along with, a lot of other stuff.
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Re: Canon 1300D lots of noise (even with low ISO)


Robin4321 wrote:

Hi everyone!

 

I'm back after a couple of months of not taking lots of pictures lately.
I took a few last week and I'm still a bit frustrated about the quality. I used a tripod this time and it doesn't help much like you can see on that spider picture that is blur even if I'm 100% sure it was focused on it when I took the picture:

IMG_1621_compressed.jpg

Since everyone here seems to think the pictures are fine for the camera I've got, I'm seriously thinking of getting a new gear.

If I want more sharpness, should I consider changing the camera and the lenses or only the lenses?

 


The best thing that you can do to get "more sharpness" is to better educate yourself on the basics of photography.  There was nothing wrong with your gear with the picture of the horse rider in the water, and there is nothing with this macro photo, either.

At macro photography distances, your depth of field can become extremely narrow, as little as 1/8 of an inch or less.  Having just as small portion of the photo in sharp focus is NORMAL.  If you wish to capture this entire subject in focus, then you would likely need a tripod, take a series of shots capturing different parts of the subject in focus, and then use focus stacking in post processing to build the final image..

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Re: Canon 1300D lots of noise (even with low ISO)


Robin4321 wrote:

Hi everyone!

 

I'm back after a couple of months of not taking lots of pictures lately.
I took a few last week and I'm still a bit frustrated about the quality. I used a tripod this time and it doesn't help much like you can see on that spider picture that is blur even if I'm 100% sure it was focused on it when I took the picture:

IMG_1621_compressed.jpg

Since everyone here seems to think the pictures are fine for the camera I've got, I'm seriously thinking of getting a new gear.

If I want more sharpness, should I consider changing the camera and the lenses or only the lenses?

 


Next time, try shoot in Live view instead. Then you will get rid of AF variance and you will not have a mirror flipping up and down making small shakes.

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Re: Canon 1300D lots of noise (even with low ISO)

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Waddizzle wrote:

 

The best thing that you can do to get "more sharpness" is to better educate yourself on the basics of photography.  There was nothing wrong with your gear with the picture of the horse rider in the water, and there is nothing with this macro photo, either.

At macro photography distances, your depth of field can become extremely narrow, as little as 1/8 of an inch or less.  Having just as small portion of the photo in sharp focus is NORMAL.  If you wish to capture this entire subject in focus, then you would likely need a tripod, take a series of shots capturing different parts of the subject in focus, and then use focus stacking in post processing to build the final image..


I do educate myself on the basics of photography by watching videos on youtube, reading some articles online and talking to you guys on forums and I know about what you mentionned just now.
There, I used a tripod, and I focused on the middle of the big spider but even the middle of the spider isn't sharp, that's why I'm starting to think my camera/lenses are just not good enough.

I read about focus stacking yesterday by the way, I don't think I need it there but it's a really cool technic.

 

 

Peter wrote:


Next time, try shoot in Live view instead. Then you will get rid of AF variance and you will not have a mirror flipping up and down making small shakes.


Yes, I'll try that, that might help a bit.

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Re: Canon 1300D lots of noise (even with low ISO)

Unless you are using a macro lens, then your best results may come from manual focusing in Live View.  If you are using the EF-S 18-55mm lens that came in the camera kit, then do not expect too much out of it.  That is a much older design than the camera.  The lens was first introduced when DSLR cameras had much lower resolution sensors.  

Every lens has a MP limit, a point where a higher resolution sensor does not improve the image quality.  In fact, in most cases a higher resolution sensor will produce worse image quality than a lower one, when the hi-res sensor exceeds the resolution of the lens.  Your 1300D has better resolution than the 18-55mm lens that comes with it in a camera kit.  Canon has since introduced a much sharper, STM version of the 18-55mm camera kit lens.

Try one of the inexpensive Canon primes: EF 50mm f/1.8 STM; EF 40mm f/2.8 STM; EF-S 24mm f/2.8 STM.  They are all very sharp, and all use the latest "STM" focusing motor technology.  They are all pretty sharp, but I think the 50mm is the sharpest. The wider apertures mean that the lenses will pass more light to the AF sensor when it focuses, which typically translates into sharper photos.

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